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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went back through and re-read the first page of this thread. It would seem the consensus is that this is NOT the same car. In which case, what ever happened to this red one I took pics of as a kid?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the same car that is in the book that I mentioned. There are too many different details between the two cars for that to be the Bonhams car IMO.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Chris. I can't imagine someone taking all of the right parts off of this car and replacing those parts with all of the incorrect stuff like on the Bonhams car. Wonder if this red car is even still in the U.S.? I know the low mileage Barndoor Ambulance that was displayed and owned by the same dealership as this red 46 recently found its way to a collection in New England...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Taken at the Lares volky show PR 2015

Well the red '46 is still in basically the same condition as when it was in the book. If there was any doubt about these two '46's being the same car this is proof that they are not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at this car in Fort Worth? Tx years ago (late 80s- early 90s) in a building full of unusual cars owned by a salvage yard. I think I missed seeing it at the Ennis show and tracked it down later. It had so many cars around it, that I could not get very close. I wondered if the Red paint meant it was a Russian VW at one time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I looked at this car in Fort Worth? Tx years ago (late 80s- early 90s) in a building full of unusual cars owned by a salvage yard. I think I missed seeing it at the Ennis show and tracked it down later. It had so many cars around it, that I could not get very close. I wondered if the Red paint meant it was a Russian VW at one time.

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Is this a third red 1946?

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1946-volkswagen-sedan.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1946 number plate (pretty distinctive) and the the banana over-riders wrongly sited inboard on the bumpers would seem to suggest it's the same car.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ex-Texas car has openings in the 9, 4 and 6 where the Ohio car does not.

It might be the east coast car except the owners last names are different.
Maybe the owner mentioned in Bonhams bought the car from the Ohio owners?

EDIT- Does anyone have the results of the Oldest VW in America contest showing 2nd , 3rd, 4th etc. places

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the red car in all of these pictures is the same car but obviously not the green one that just sold at Bonhams because we have current pictures of the red one. One distinctive feature is that that bumper bars are not original ones. They are some sort of fabricated bumpers, perhaps from a later bumper blade. The older plate was the same plate on the pictures in the book that I mentioned and the pictures in that article appear to be from the same timeframe and perhaps from the same photo shoot at the pictures in the book. The car has just had a new plate installed since that time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selling on eBay now:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/131562263321
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nlorntson wrote:
Selling on eBay now:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/131562263321


That looks a lot like the F-40 motorsports garage from Chasing Classic Cars...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@41.569267,-72.62301...56!6m1!1e1
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it says so in the first words of the description Wink
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Doh Embarassed Didn't read the description Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did biding finish at ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

There were zero bids.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It did end early it is sold
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been watching this Ebay sale, and from memory there were at one stage, 36 bids on the car, with around £38K reached, and a couple of days to run. How Ebay can suddenly say there were no bids is a nonsense. Only goes to intensify the mystery surrounding the sale of this car!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree Martin, I saw it with a similar number of bids and money.

The text did however say that the seller retained the right to withdraw the car as it was offered for sale elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin Southwell wrote:
How Ebay can suddenly say there were no bids is a nonsense.

When the seller wants to end the auction early, he has to cancel each bid, one by one. After that is done, the auction has no bids and is ended.
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