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buggyhick
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 Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: Does empi have any quality control at all? |
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I have been building my 4 seater rail buggy from the ground up for 3 years and everything that I have bought with the name empi has had issues. Tonight I finally got to take the thing down to the gas station and fill it up. I got home and my 6 year Old daughter said daddy something is leaking out of the buggy. After a little investigation I found a pin hole in the weld on the gas tank. I thought all gas tank were pressurized from the factory and checked for leaks to be legally sold. Here's a picture of the hole.
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Bret2094
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As a general rule, empi should have to comply to some form of standard, and they probably have a quality control, but not every defect gets picked out on inspection. Too many rolling doen the line to catch them all
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cbeck
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| My flaps sells plenty of empi parts. also plenty of empi parts he won't sell because he stands behind what he sells. If empi wouldn't make it right He would. Thats why I buy my stuff from him. That and his 40 + years of selling, installing, and repairing parts and vw's he has a pretty good grasp of the scene. |
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hitest
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Maybe I'm just an old fart, but if I bought that and endangered my family finding out it leaked, it would be shoved sideways up an Empi Rep's arse by lunchtime.
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vwracerdave
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The big problem with 3 year projects is getting a defective part replaced that you bought 2 years ago and the receipt is long gone.
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Brian
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Also the tank probably came with some fine print saying "off-road use only"
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buggyhick
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:26 am Post subject: does empi have any quality control at all???? |
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I called the dealer where I got the tank from yesterday, which has become a pretty good friend, and he said he will take care of it no problem. I told him empi rep should take care of that for you. He said the same thing I did about that he thought they pressure tested all of them from the factory. Then he told me that is probably why they put "off road use only" on the box so they don't have to check them. I said you should still tell them that still can't fly , they have to be monitored for safety and environmental.
So you were right Brian about the off road use only tag, and hitest I am a whole lot of redneck and I was ready to fight when I found that leak!!!! |
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EVfun
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Every
Mistake
Passes
Inspection
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caleb0101
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Expect
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Immediately
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mark tucker
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Ive had more major issues with bugpoop shit that empi.with that said.....empi engine parts are good.....empi shiney shit is..... well poop. Im always amazed when I get a good bugpoop part.Im not amazed often. I got 2 bugpoop trans mission parts 2 weeks ago,didnt know I was ordering bugpoop parts.....they are not made right  it never ends with bug poop parts.I hope empi can step it up since they now own bugpoop. to atleast the quality&fitment of the empi parts. ( I dont think bp ever had a qc dept) |
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awreed
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| Buyer beware, I guess. After modifying many expensive (and shiny) new parts I've become a much more cynical and careful buyer. But quality control issues aren't limited to EMPI, SCAT, or bugpoop. The 044 heads I got from CB even had casting material between the fins that needed to be drilled out for proper air flow. |
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sixfootdan
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Does empi have any quality control at all? |
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| buggyhick wrote: |
| Does empi have any quality control at all? |
Nope, Empi dealers will tell you different though. It was great many many moons ago.
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Brian
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Cali_Army_Guy
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Damn that sucks. I've bought a few small empi items with no issues.
Deck lid stand offs
Shift coupler and shifter bushing
Bamboo parcel tray
Intake boots
Control arm/sway bar bushings
Also bought an empi header and stinger that had zero fitmet issues and went on smoothly.
Haven't had a problem with any of it. |
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morymob
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| Absolutely, do u see the word 'quality' anywhere in ads ? |
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raygreenwood
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| awreed wrote: |
| Buyer beware, I guess. After modifying many expensive (and shiny) new parts I've become a much more cynical and careful buyer. But quality control issues aren't limited to EMPI, SCAT, or bugpoop. The 044 heads I got from CB even had casting material between the fins that needed to be drilled out for proper air flow. |
Then again...so do the factory heads 
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mark tucker
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EMPI brake but somebodys HO made the spindle. so...not empi's issue.I wonder if it was a bug poop HO made the spindle YOU CANT FIX STUPID. |
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Brian
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100% EMPI spindle. came in a sealed empi box and all.
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Cusser
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RETURN bad stuff to the store; it costs a frickin' fortune for the company to have to refund the store, takes a big hit, and likely loses a retail customer, plus whoever else he tells. That ends up net as better quality.
Like Autozone and O'Reilly would go broke if all that lifetime warranty stuff went bad within months....
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1977_L63H_P27
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RETURN bad stuff to the store; it costs a frickin' fortune for the company to have to refund the store, takes a big hit, and likely loses a retail customer, plus whoever else he tells. That ends up net as better quality.
Like Autozone and O'Reilly would go broke if all that lifetime warranty stuff went bad within months.... |
Not if they made the customer adhere to the warranty. The warranty at most FLAPS is Lifetime...of the part. If you but the lifetime brake pads (distributor cap, thermostat, etc.), and they last you 2 - 3 years, that was the lifetime of the part and you get to buy another. Most customers know this and don't expect to come in and get another set but, for the ones that do, we would give them a set to shut them up. That was their replacement and the end of it. The dealer would rather mark off a few sets so you don't run around goin' "their warranty sucks", when in reality the warranty is only supposed to mean that the part won't break within a very short time.
Now carry on with your discussion ;P
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