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76RennWagen Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2015 Posts: 53
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:06 am Post subject: Newbie here |
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Hello,
I finally bought a 1964 Beetle. First stage will be to restore the ride height.
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iadubber Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2010 Posts: 177 Location: Farley, IA
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Nice pick up! I like the ride height |
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RustyPans Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2015 Posts: 7 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Congratulations on the Beetle. I'm really liking that front bumper. |
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vwnut1 Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2012 Posts: 495 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Any early '60's Bug is a great find, let the fun (and a thinner wallet) begin... _________________ 1957 VW Oval Resto Mod |
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67jason Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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nice bug. glad to hear you plan on fixing the ride height, it looks like shit right now and is probably unsafe and poor handling to drive.
for the record i like lowered cars, but stooooopid slammed is stoooopid. _________________ 67 bug x3
67 ghia
64 bug |
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76RennWagen Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2015 Posts: 53
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:14 am Post subject: |
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The fronts adjustable but how do I raise the rear this vehicle's brand new to me? |
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grandpa pete Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Learn how to use the search function of this site ; There are pages and pages on raising . lowering , painting , starting ,
Go to the 58 67 forum page and find the little black box ( top left ) [search this forum ] and type your search question
I just typed in "raising rear suspension " and got 23 threads on that subject _________________ 63 two fold rag
66 sedan delivery Type 6
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:47 am Post subject: |
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I never under stood why people narrow the front ends and lower them. They are almost a 4WD Stock height with 165X15's in the front and something bigger like 205's in the back. Nice to have the back up enough to clear the big tires too. The added circumference of the bigger tires make it nice on the open road. But To Each his Own1 Disc brakes are nice if you match the Rear Braking to the front Braking. People think you can get away with just putting Disc on the front but it's dangerous.
Would love to see some photos of the Engine and your thoughts on it.
Welcome! _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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All_talk Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 114 Location: Thorp, WA
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Danwvw wrote: |
... People think you can get away with just putting Disc on the front but it's dangerous... |
I don't know that this is true, after all the factory did it on the Karman Ghia. I've been driving bugs with Ghia disks up front for 20 years and never felt there was a front to rear imbalance.
But I don't know about the aftermarket disk brake kits, if the caliper piston area is different then the factory calipers then yes, it could cause some issues. Even in that case, changing tire diameter and width will likely have a much greater effect on braking power and balance than a few mm in piston diameter.
Gary |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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MomoMoto Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Greenville, SC
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Nice Bug you got there! I like the LOOK of it as it sits now, but understand the functionality needed.
Have fun on your first adventure, raising the butt. _________________ ------------------
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buguy Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2003 Posts: 4915 Location: Port Orange, FL
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I like them low, but that is a little too much for my taste. Raising it will be a nice little weekend project for you. |
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67jason Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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All_talk wrote: |
Danwvw wrote: |
... People think you can get away with just putting Disc on the front but it's dangerous... |
I don't know that this is true, after all the factory did it on the Karman Ghia. I've been driving bugs with Ghia disks up front for 20 years and never felt there was a front to rear imbalance.
But I don't know about the aftermarket disk brake kits, if the caliper piston area is different then the factory calipers then yes, it could cause some issues. Even in that case, changing tire diameter and width will likely have a much greater effect on braking power and balance than a few mm in piston diameter.
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not just the karmann ghia, bugs were sold all over the world with front discs as well....just not North America. Type 3's and baywindow buses also had front discs and rear drums. as far as I know most if not all 4 lug disc conversions are based off the karmann ghia stuff. i dont feel there is anything intrinsically unsafe about adding front discs (4 or 5 lug) and keeping rear drums. _________________ 67 bug x3
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76RennWagen Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2015 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 3:21 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the warm welcome and advice. |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Most don't know it but modified braking can be really dangerous. What happens is disc brakes get added to an early beetle which increases it's stopping ability from high speed wonderfully, But even with the 1967 dual master cylinder there is not enough rear braking now to match the front. So in an emergency stop the backs will not lock up but the fronts lock up way too easily. Pretty easy to spin it out coming down a mountain pass on black top doing over 40 mph too. And on dirt or gravel especially if coming down hill and into a turn you can't stop it very well at all. The solution is to add stronger braking in the rear. Either Disc or Type 3. I tried the Porsche 356 Brakes but they were not enough I think metal shoes would help though. Also if your rear tires are bigger than the front tires it aggravates the problem. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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