Propex heater HS2211?

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:07 pm Post subject: Propex heater HS2211?

Propex makes a model that is to be mounted underneath the vehicle (HS2211):
http://www.propexheatsource.co.uk/heaters/hs2211-external-gas-air-heater

Here's a link to someone that installed one under their Vanagon.

It looks like this would be a decent way to get heat in your bus.
I have a deluxe, so I've got the heater log underneath my rear bench seat.
It seems like you could run the output of this heater up to the heater tube that the heater boxes are usually connected to.
The only thing our buses don't have (at least my deluxe) is a propane tank mounted, which I'm sure a low profile one could be found and mounted to the bottom of the bus.

Does anyone have one of these units installed in their bus?
I'm intrigued. Very Happy

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easy e · Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 9:18 pm Post subject:

I haven't installed a propane heater or tank, but here's the bay window tank setup that might work...

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Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:49 am Post subject:

I need to find out how much it would cost to get one custom made, that would be lower profile.
Incognito, ya know?
This place has lots of variations:
http://www.mantank.com/products/rvproducts.htm
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velvetgreen · Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:05 am Post subject:

lots of adapters out there that allow you the flexibility to run throw away propane containers so you don't need a permanently mounted tank

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/lp-gas/sturgi-stay-propane-kits.htm

people have used these successfully on westy stoves for years

glasspint · Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:50 am Post subject:

I installed one of these on my 67. The middle section of heater tubing was trashed so I took advantage and hooked it up to the front half, I now have heat and defrost, works like a charm. I bought a standard replacement tank from Go Westy and mounted it just behind the driver. My bus is stock height, the tank ended up being higher than the suspension by an inch. I used a cardboard box reshaped to mimic the heater so I could find the best spot to mount the heater. Karl at Westy Ventures was very helpful over the phone. It sure isn't for the purist but if you want to be warm and have a strong defrost, it works quite well.
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Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:13 pm Post subject:

But did you need to cut another whole into the interior of the bus?
I think Karl said that two holes would be required for install, or did you hook them both up to the same heater tubing?
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MrPolak · Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:28 am Post subject:

I have a propex in my Syncro Westy and it's awesome. It transforms what otherwise would have been a wet, cold, miserable camping day.

You can take a page from Canadian campers and install the propane tank inside the bus along with necessary propane sensors, or as others mentioned use a smaller portable tank. I love the idea of plugging it into the existing heater tube to provide heat while you are driving.

In addition, you would want to install a secondary battery to provide independent power to the unit with a separate charging circuit like a Westfalia's.

If you can make the modifications clean and unobtrusive, the payback would be tremendous. There's always the option of a refurbished Eberspacher heater if you desire a period-correct modification.

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:51 pm Post subject:

My main question about the HS2211 is the ducting and whether or not it would sufficiently heat up the interior with the stock ducting.
I would think it would be a ton better than stock bus heat.
I'm sure insulating the heater tubes would help a lot too.
What's cool is that I don't think you'd have to cut many holes.
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MrPolak · Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 5:43 pm Post subject:

Heat output of HS2211 is same as the one I have at 6500 BTU, so it's plenty. There's also lots of hot air flow from a single vent.

glasspint · Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:26 am Post subject:

MrPolak · Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:47 pm Post subject:

I can see how routing all heating air to front and having heater air intake in the back of the bus would circulate the heat very well.

Ok, I just added this to my list of future projects. Smile

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:26 pm Post subject:

KevinAlbrecht · Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:31 pm Post subject:

What's the cost of the propex unit listed?
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Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:06 pm Post subject:

$775 from WestyVentures.
You'd still need some sort of propane source and plumbing too though, so factor that in.
I live in Central Texas, so it doesn't get super cold here but it would be nice to have on certain days.
http://westyventures.com/propex.html
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brettsvw · Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:19 pm Post subject:

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:21 am Post subject:

I finally measured the bottom of the bus, and even a bay window tank would hang way too low. Bummer.
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BarryL · Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:38 pm Post subject:

mandraks · Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:31 pm Post subject:

Mr. Electric Wizard · Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:54 pm Post subject:

Damn stupid lowered bus. Laughing

I'm not planning on doing any off-roading or anything but I'd feel a heck of a lot better putting a propane tank under the bus if it was stock height.
Thinking about raising it back up at some point.
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