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DBUG Nist Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2015 Posts: 62 Location: Akron Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:25 pm Post subject: My Bugaru build! |
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Hey Guys i figured it was about that time to start my build of the rail buggy and turn it into a subaru vw railbuggy aka the bugaru! any opinions or ideas you have along the build im more than happy to hear the ideas, compliments, or complaints so here we are: today i sold my old 1641cc single port motor for 900, i thought it was a good start! so now i'm waiting on to find the donor car. Started stripping down the old bug to give it a fresh coat of paint to give it some nice touch's.
_________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
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you give Empi your money and they punish you for it. common scenario. |
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no1clyde Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2013 Posts: 365 Location: Elko Nv.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a nice frame to build around. Good luck in finding a car to get your motor.
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20380 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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You can get a JDM motor for probable less than a downer car (the cheapest in my area been about $3000)...
https://www.google.com/search?q=JDM+motors&oq=...p;ie=UTF-8
Generally JDM motors are complete with injectors and all sensors, all you need is a ECU and that can be as simple as Microsquirt and hand made harness or something like Outfront Motor sports can provide....
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/index.php
http://www.outfrontmotorsports.com/
Kennedy Engineered Products has adapter kits...
http://www.kennedyenginc.com/Pages/default.aspx
Any way just some thoughts...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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DBUG Nist Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2015 Posts: 62 Location: Akron Ohio
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feed back Dale i was 100% on the KEP adapting kit also im just browsing craigslist for ones with about 170k ish give or take with a bad trans or rusted body, struts, etc.. planning on doing a compression test before purchase to get a general idea hows its doing maybe a leak down down the road. I dont have the best paying job so im trying to budget as little amount of as possible without taking any short cuts if i have to pay a bunch of money ill end up doing that. definitely not trying to
-Dustin _________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
dansvans wrote: |
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you give Empi your money and they punish you for it. common scenario. |
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DBUG Nist Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2015 Posts: 62 Location: Akron Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:25 am Post subject: |
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i got my trans out and im about to power wash it and give it a fresh coat of paint shifts smoothly through gears so no worries there also could some one pin point the exact transmission that it is i believe its the 72-74' irs bug trans with a 3.88 r&p
and in the mean time i started grinding down rust spots and cleaning brackets along with painting them, ill keep you guys updated!
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1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
dansvans wrote: |
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you give Empi your money and they punish you for it. common scenario. |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2675 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:37 am Post subject: |
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there should be a code along the bottom edge of the trans that starts with two letters. Those letters will be able to tell you what it might of come from..
I'm curious to see how this goes for you budget wise. Not to be debbie downer, but when I was searching for an affordable source for a motor, although being one of the best options it was definitely one of the most expensive when all was said and done. Mainly because Subaru owners think their cars are worth way too much despite being ugly POS's and rusted out. I wish you well though. There is a lot of cool things that can be done with subys. The thing that really appealed to me were the trim and pulley kits you could get for them. Made the engine look like something out of early 90's anime'. But I could never afford it. Chute my sad Quad4 has nearly bankrupted me. And I'm not even done yet! lol _________________ Brian H.
I may not know everything,but I will try to help if I can
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DBUG Nist Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:50 am Post subject: |
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thanks oragne ill give it a look when i get home! I totally agree with you!! its mainly imprezas! i swear its only in ohio i looked in WV and i found a solid six hits of what i was looking for but im going to get the whole car and im waiting for the right one anything reasonable from 0 to 1000 bucks at the most. Mainly looking for one with a blown trans or something because alot of people would just want it gone so i guess one mans trash is another mans treasure
Theres a land mine of parts for subaru and i love it! Well hey maybe one day i wont have to make a budget and go bankrupt from builds but hey at least the moneys going to something thats worth it! _________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
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DBUG Nist Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Right on orange! I have a Honda transmission to scrap along with the car too so hopefully I'll get some extra cash from that
So today I was browsing around on CL and found a legacy with 161k everything's good trans is a bit shaky so I decided to go with a buddy to go look at it drove it and brought it home for 900! So now I sold my vw motor and in return got a free car drove it a hour on the highway from Cleveland back home and drove like a dream didn't over heat or anything! So I'll probably drive it around a little bit for the heck of it, and power wash the engine too
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1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
dansvans wrote: |
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you give Empi your money and they punish you for it. common scenario. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Not bad looking car, sometimes you get lucky...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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DBUG Nist Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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its abput time for me hahah usually my lucks a little dry but i feel so bad for tearing a semi solid car apart at the same time i dont I did get the transmission power washed for a fresh coat of paint tomorrow ill keep everyone posted
-Dustin _________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
dansvans wrote: |
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you give Empi your money and they punish you for it. common scenario. |
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DBUG Nist Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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quick update started working on painting the bug and stripping the subaru. i have got most of the painting and stripping done maybe tuesday ill get started on the engine wiring and so on. Ill keep you guys updated.
-Dustin
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1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
dansvans wrote: |
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you give Empi your money and they punish you for it. common scenario. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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anyone with input would be great i've been looking around to see on the forums if anyone has ran into a different ecu for the legacy i don't know if its a later obd1 model or not but my ecu doesn't have the yellow plugs and is a different ecu then others show on the builds don't know if its because its automatic or not. Heres a picture the plugs are grey btw.
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1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
dansvans wrote: |
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you give Empi your money and they punish you for it. common scenario. |
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no1clyde Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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it looks to me like you have a 95 and I think it is the first year OBD2. I recommend you try to find a genuine Subaru wiring manual and trace the wire from it. That was hoe I did my Toyota in my buggy. Also you will probably have a OBD2 reader port near the steering column in the car, you will want to wire it in to be able to read the codes with a code reader.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the reply ed. do you think the haynes manuals would have alot of wiring? I wish i was still in automotive classes because i had an all access pass to all data whenever i was at school and i never realized how much i should have utilized it until now! Its kinda funny i asked the guy to check the engine light when i got it and they didn't have an obd1 reader, which i thought was weird for a dealer to say but now i realized when i started taking apart the car it was obd2 totally thought it was 96 or 97 and up but i guess the Subaru must have been one of the latest models that year. Any links for wiring diagrams would be great.
i also have to check out this toyota buggy you speak of sounds beast :2gunfire:
-Dustin _________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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thanks, i'm gonna check it out when it calms down at work so i can take it all in and yeah i've been looking some stuff is a hit and miss ill keep searching but did haynes have the wiring i need? I know that it has everything in the mechanical aspect.
-Dustin _________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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i can not find anything on this ecu pinout to save my life _________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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thanks ed very helpful, still surprised they don't have a pinout anywhere. Any who i noticed they didn't mention the vss (vehicle speed sensor)
-Dustin _________________ 2011 sentra (dd)
1970 type 1 rail buggy,soon to be the bugaru
dansvans wrote: |
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