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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:17 am Post subject: '66 bug tdi conversion plus aluminium stuff! |
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Hi,
Thanks for looking
This is quite a long story, and it's got a long way to go yet!
Back in 1991 I bought a '66 bug that I found in a field behind a workshop. It had been there for 8 years following having a new clutch fitted. The car owner couldn't pay the bill, so it stayed there.
I paid the clutch bill and the car owner gave me the car. It was rotten! I taught myself to weld and fixed it up.
I used it as my daily driver gradually uprating the performance.
I fitted disc brakes, bigger rear drums, lowered all round, 12v conversion, and went through many engines. The last engine I had was a 1776 I built myself using all the right stuff to make it fast and reliable.
However by this time I had two young children and driving around in a very noisy cold car lost its shine!
The bug was taken off the road and put in the garage in 2011.
Every time I went in the garage I would look at it and wonder what to do with it. I'd had it as part of my life for so long I couldn't sell it. But it was a waste sitting in my garage.
Meanwhile I'd changed jobs and started working for a camper restoration company MV Engineering, who specialise in tdi conversions in T25's. Mario, the owner had a 3 cylinder turbo diesel engine from a vw polo ( fox?) he was putting into a bay window. 1.4 litre, 75 bhp, 140 ft/lb torque 60-65 mpg, all as standard. With a different turbo, bigger injectors and a remap you can see over 100 bhp, 200 ft/lb torque and still get 55-60 mpg!
That got me thinking........
I'd even get a proper heater......... |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:53 am Post subject: |
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So I bought a 2000 1.4 tdi vw polo with 80,000 miles for not a lot as the bodywork was trashed. Somehow this engine is going in the back of my bug!
I bought an adapter kit and after many an hour trimming here and there got it in!
I also removed most of the sheet metal from the front end to make way for the radiator. |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:00 am Post subject: |
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I made up a frame for the front body mount and fuel tank. I've raised the tank by about 1 1/2" to aid air flow underneath.
Now, to get the air into the radiator area I've done something a bit different
I didn't want to cut holes in my bonnet ( Hood?) or the front apron. So I've made a aluminium front bumper with built-in airscoops.... |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I wanted a ridge through the bumper for both looks and added strength. This is the profile I was after
First some 1050 1.5mm aluminium was cut and bent round a 3/4" pipe
Then the edges went into the shrinker to pull it round into a curve
This has the effect of causing the middle to dip in
So it needs to be stretched on the power hammer
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Now to make the ridge.
A different tool is used in the power hammer
Once the bumper has passed through this it looked like this
A couple of scoops were made and welded in
I decided to make a new skin for the front apron, keeping most of the structure the original steel.
First it was stretched in the English wheel
Then the edge shrunk
And then solid riveted to the apron. A coat of special paint was used to prevent chemical corrosion between the aluminium and the steel
A trial fit to the car, not quite the right shape yet, but getting there
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:32 am Post subject: |
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By this time I had been offered a job at one of the best metalworking shops in the UK, www.Metalcraftltd.com, hence the cool tool access! Lol |
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2010 Posts: 1279 Location: chino,ca
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Very cool! _________________ HBB took me to BBV. |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Made a start on the front fender
This is the rear of it taking shape
I'm using the old wing as a guide.
I'll make it in five or six pieces then tig them together. I'm using 1.5 mm 1050 aluminium |
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caleb0101 Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2014 Posts: 524 Location: Bristol Connecticut
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Floyd1966 wrote: |
Made a start on the front fender
This is the rear of it taking shape
I'm using the old wing as a guide.
I'll make it in five or six pieces then tig them together. I'm using 1.5 mm 1050 aluminium |
are you going to do a pair of doors, a deck lid, and a hood in alluminum too? _________________ Ruby red 1967 beetle sedan with a 2021cc
1967 beetle sedan baja project
April 60 euro spec ragtop beetle with a 1641cc |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:36 am Post subject: |
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No, my originals are in good order. My front fenders are reproduction and starting to rot.
However once this car is finished I'm starting a Hebmuller replica which will be all aluminium built on a bug chassis with a hidden roll cage. Hopefully I'll be on this next year. |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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well, it's running
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M316s-VlWKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3kqdCOAMGw
now I realise that in the USA this may seam an odd conversion, but here in UK gasoline is so expensive ( £1.20/litre = $8 per gallon )
Also the 3 cylinder diesel engine is quite common over here. In fact, many new cars are being made with 3 cylinder turbo engines, both diesel and gasoline |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7023 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations! How much more is there to do until it's roadworthy? _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks
Not too much left to do.
I need to fabricate and fit a new rear bulkhead and rear floor ( behind the back seat) as I've had to butcher it quite a lot!
I also need to sort the engine lid as it can't close. I'll probably either make a bulge or cut a scoop in it ( like the old Empi ones) I could just fit standoffs but I don't really like the look. |
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Akantares Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2014 Posts: 16 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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This is amazing. How hard was this to do? I've been mulling around with this idea for a while. Please keep us updated! _________________ Felix the Flying Deutschmann: 1969 Savannah Beige Beetle with 1600DP engine |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. How hard it is depends on your skill set and the people who can help. I was fortunate that I know the leading tdi conversion people in the UK, MV Engineering. They work mainly on T2 T3 and T4, but their knowledge and help was the difference between success and failure.
I've built quite a few engines before, even a home made fuel injection system. My attitude is that you can do anything you want to with the right help, and Google!
The hardest thing for me was working out all the incompatible things, bellhousing too small, clutch, starter ( hardest of all!). The wiring was one of the more enjoyable sides of it. It did take three days, but I was rewarded for my patience and methodical approach with an engine that started first turn of the key.
I'm hoping to get the rest of the car done before Christmas, fingers crossed!
Thanks for your interest |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2013 Posts: 27 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:43 am Post subject: Re: '66 bug tdi conversion plus aluminium stuff! |
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Thought I'd do a little update.
I finished the engine conversion a while ago. Since then I have done thousands of miles in it trouble free. On a run I can get 87mpg out of it if I stick to 50mph.
I took it to a drag strip the other week and recorded a 17.49 @ 73mph. At the 1/8th mile I was doing 62mph so as you can work out my gearing needs looking at. Still not too shabby for a 1.4lt diesel
I am now concentrating on the bodywork. I'm going all hand made, no bought panels and as much aluminium as I can.
I have already done the engine lid, front and rear valances and drivers door skin from aluminium.
The engine lid was made with a different profile in order for it to clear the engine.
I'll post up some photos in a bit.
I'm trying to keep it as a rolling restoration for as long as possible because I really don't want to stop driving it! Lol
I haven't painted the new panels yet, just bare aluminium. But I will paint it when I've finished. Whenever that is! |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:57 am Post subject: Re: '66 bug tdi conversion plus aluminium stuff! |
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Floyd1966 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:00 am Post subject: Re: '66 bug tdi conversion plus aluminium stuff! |
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Beetlebaum Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2008 Posts: 2181 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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DieselDork Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2015 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: '66 bug tdi conversion plus aluminium stuff! |
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Heck yeah! This is absolutely killer! Definitely gonna have to do a Ghia! |
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