'73 Type 412 Wagon Calipers

[ClassicCamper]

Was hoping someone could recommend a manufacturer for rebuilt/loaded calipers. The one's on the car now are covered with heavy rust and the passenger side starts grabbing after about 40 mph. Would like to get the correct parts on the car. Same with rotors. Thanks, -Ron

[raygreenwood]

Of course this goes without saying ....its far easier to just rebuild what you have

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperCat/0979/POR_0979_BRKHYD_pg1.htm#item3 Kits for $22 per caliper with hardware. Just need pads.

Rockauto has caliper seal kits for $26, hardware kits for $7.55 and new pistons if needed for about $15. All Centri brand...which have been pretty good quality in most things I have seen.

Also under 914, they have semi-loaded calipers...Raybestos and Centric brands....all you need to add are pads.

Automobile Atlanta has calipers from $50-75 each without pads. They sell the hardware..... spring, pins, locking plates or bolts...separately.


Ray

[ClassicCamper]

I wish I could rebuild what I have, but they are toast. So, I need to spend yet again for this money pit. (although the car did steal my heart)

How do you feel about these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Disc-Brake-Caliper-Premium...mp;vxp=mtr

I read somewhere that Centric isn't a bad fitting caliper for the 412. Curious to 'hear' what the 411/412 community has to say. Thank you

[raygreenwood]

Centric has bee nquite good. Those are ATE castings so Centric is just rebuilding them.

Why do you say your calipers are toast?

Ray

[titan3c]

Are all type 4 calipers the same? Will 412 calipers fit a 411?

[raygreenwood]

[titan3c]

That has me concerned. Sometime back I ordered calipers, and I think it was from Centric. Anyhow I noticed the left one was the same as my old one which had one bleed valve. The other one had two bleed valves which made me wonder if they were the same otherwise They both installed OK, but I did notice the one with two bleed valves did have a slight drag on the disc. The car brakes evenly doesn't pull either way. They didn't come with pads-----I installed them. I'm wondering if I should redo, because I'm thinking the one with two bleed valves is the later model. That was my first lesson in ordering parts for this car. Suppliers are not savvy about these type 4's. They have tried to send my type 3, 1 and 2 parts and even argued with me when I say they won't work. Bob

[raygreenwood]

The differences in early and late...are that they will not physically fit different years. The 411 and early 412 to August of 1972 have a different sub axle spacing. The later caliper will not fit early and eraly will not fit late.

The two bleeder caliper was a later version of the late caliper that allowed them to not have a unique caliper for each side. The bleeder valve goes up. Ray

[titan3c]

I get a feeling from what you say that I shouldn't leave the two bleeder caliper on my car. It installed OK, but as I said it has a slight drag. I thought that may wear down, but think I better change it. What's your thoughts. Bob

[raygreenwood]

There is nothing wrong with having a single bleeder caliper on one side and a two bleeder caliper on the other.....but it sound like its a little sticky. Buy a kit and rebuild it is the simplest way. Ray

[KTPhil]

Just curious... do the Type 4 calipers have the pin in the center of the bore like the Type 3 calipers have?

[raygreenwood]