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bugcollections Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2007 Posts: 795 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:15 pm Post subject: Odd starter |
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Ok, little help needed on odd starter. Putting a 6V starter in and digging through my stash of used Bosch 6v starters to find a good used one. Found one that looked good: It is in all respects a 6v starter; right size, right diameter shaft, correct gear; 6v solenoid: But, stamped on the housing where a normal 6v starter is stamped with the Bosch part # as 0001201001 and 6v05PS, it is stamped with a slightly different part # 0001208006 and 12v 05PS. Hmm, is this thing a 12V starter? Since it is going in a car with a 6V flywheel that has been converted to 12V I stick it in and crank the car. Sure enough; it is a 12V motor, not a 6V running on 12V.
So here is the question: Where in the heck did it originate? In all respects in appears to be an absolute original 6V Bosch starter, but has a 12V motor. I thought maybe some early 67 Type I when they were first converting to 12V and still had maybe a 6V flywheel. Or maybe the same circumstance for an early Type III 12V car. Have never seen one before to by knowledge. But it sure makes a great way to upgrade to a 12V starter on an old 6V car.
Have I got something that is really rare? Or just something I have never noticed before in my 50 + years of messing with VWs. |
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Richard Roth Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 952
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Buses could be custom ordered with a 12v system before 1967. _________________ The problem with reality is that there's no background music !
1966 Empi GTV MKIV
1954 Kabriolett Beetle
1953 Porsche 356 1500S
1957 Cable brake standard model
1962 cable brake standard model
1956 23 window Samba
1960 Austin Healey 3000
1961 Corvair Greenbrier |
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bugcollections Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2007 Posts: 795 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:51 pm Post subject: starter |
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Thanks for the response Richard. It got me to thinking; yes the busses, probably as early as 62 could be built with M-Code M620; 12V electrics. VW must have had Bosch build a special 12V starter for the M620 busses. Not sure how many of them are around, but if we could find a supply it sure would solve an age-old problem of converting early 6V VWs to 12V without having to change the flywheel or run that fast spinning 6V starter on 6V. I have never seen one of these starters before, but it works great. Anyone else got one? |
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Aaron M265 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2008 Posts: 656 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hard to know for sure without a picture but Bosch was not the only supplier of electrical parts for VW. Starting as early as 1955 Garbe Lahmeyer had electrical items installed in VW's. If the housing has a VW stamp and lacks any Bosch designation it is likely a GL part. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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