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iowegian 
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My son-in-law just came back from a two week Marine Reserve training stint in 29 Palms. Not a palm tree to be seen. And nothing that lives there besides crows and cockroaches. The legend is that it was an Army property and the Army abandoned it as being uninhabitable, at which point the Marines stepped up and took it over. But that sounds like the Marine version of things!  |
Not true.
It was a navy auxiliary air station in the 40's during WWII. Then became a marine base in the early 50's. It was never an army base. |
As I understand it, General George Patton's Desert Training Center was headquartered near Desert Center, ( the area where the I-10 bridge collapsed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Training_Center |
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Cali_Army_Guy
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| Cali_Army_Guy wrote: |
| 79SuperVert wrote: |
| My son-in-law just came back from a two week Marine Reserve training stint in 29 Palms. Not a palm tree to be seen. And nothing that lives there besides crows and cockroaches. The legend is that it was an Army property and the Army abandoned it as being uninhabitable, at which point the Marines stepped up and took it over. But that sounds like the Marine version of things! |
Not true.
It was a navy auxiliary air station in the 40's during WWII. Then became a marine base in the early 50's. It was never an army base. |
As I understand it, General George Patton's Desert Training Center was headquartered near Desert Center, ( the area where the I-10 bridge collapsed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Training_Center |
Has nothing to do with 29 Plams though. Patton was never the commander of 29 Palms. Don't get me wrong. The army and others do train there. But it's a marine base. Has never been ran by the army. |
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iowegian
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Cali_Army_Guy wrote: |
| iowegian wrote: |
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| My son-in-law just came back from a two week Marine Reserve training stint in 29 Palms. Not a palm tree to be seen. And nothing that lives there besides crows and cockroaches. The legend is that it was an Army property and the Army abandoned it as being uninhabitable, at which point the Marines stepped up and took it over. But that sounds like the Marine version of things! |
Not true.
It was a navy auxiliary air station in the 40's during WWII. Then became a marine base in the early 50's. It was never an army base. |
As I understand it, General George Patton's Desert Training Center was headquartered near Desert Center, ( the area where the I-10 bridge collapsed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Training_Center |
Has nothing to do with 29 Plams though. Patton was never the commander of 29 Palms. Don't get me wrong. The army and others do train there. But it's a marine base. Has never been ran by the army. |
Maybe Patton's guys went to 29 Palms for a little R&R because it is such a beautiful oasis??
Maybe??
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79SuperVert
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| My son-in-law just came back from a two week Marine Reserve training stint in 29 Palms. |
I'm sure your son will agree will this, 29 Palms is horrible. Is he deploying to Afghanistan? I only ask cause that's where marines train before they deploy cause it's damn similar to Iraq and Afghanistan. Or does he live down there and just got stuck there for his 2 week a year thing? |
He lives in Elizabeth, NJ and he went there for the 2 week a year thing. We asked him if he needed sun block and he said, no, the only part of him that would be exposed to the sun for the two weeks would be his hands! He had to wear his full gear including protective vest all the time. And yes, he said 29 Palms is horrible, but he takes it as a personal challenge and so didn't mind it.
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Cali_Army_Guy
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| My son-in-law just came back from a two week Marine Reserve training stint in 29 Palms. |
I'm sure your son will agree will this, 29 Palms is horrible. Is he deploying to Afghanistan? I only ask cause that's where marines train before they deploy cause it's damn similar to Iraq and Afghanistan. Or does he live down there and just got stuck there for his 2 week a year thing? |
He lives in Elizabeth, NJ and he went there for the 2 week a year thing. We asked him if he needed sun block and he said, no, the only part of him that would be exposed to the sun for the two weeks would be his hands! He had to wear his full gear including protective vest all the time. And yes, he said 29 Palms is horrible, but he takes it as a personal challenge and so didn't mind it. |
Yeah I've played the full gear game in triple digit heat. Did they make him wear MOPP gear with the gas mask at all? That's when you start to have fun and really sweat. You haven't lived until you've don't this 12hrs a day lol
That's good he doesn't mind it. The military is actually quite fun if you have the right mindset about it. |
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79SuperVert
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| That's good he doesn't mind it. The military is actually quite fun if you have the right mindset about it. |
Yep. I hope he never gets called to active duty, but I think the training he has received in dealing with challenges big and small, coping with physical and mental discomfort, and maintaining physical fitness and mental alertness, will stand him and my daughter in good stead the rest of their lives.
I think it would be a very good thing if everyone could go through this type of training in their youth, regardless of whether they ever go into military service.
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Cali_Army_Guy
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| That's good he doesn't mind it. The military is actually quite fun if you have the right mindset about it. |
Yep. I hope he never gets called to active duty, but I think the training he has received in dealing with challenges big and small, coping with physical and mental discomfort, and maintaining physical fitness and mental alertness, will stand him and my daughter in good stead the rest of their lives.
I think it would be a very good thing if everyone could go through this type of training in their youth, regardless of whether they ever go into military service. |
I agree wholeheartedly on both. I wish him luck in his military career and tell him thanks for serving. |
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Jon Schmid
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:41 pm Post subject: Interstate 10 closed indefinitely between AZ & CA |
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| I think we all agree that 29 Palms is an armpit. Like most towns in the stinking desert. |
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Randall
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BREAKING NEWS --- Click here ---
http://www.pe.com/articles/highway-774438-bridge-repairs.html
I-10 to reopen Friday at noon. Both directions of traffic will use the westbound side until the eastbound bridge is fixed. "The speed limit will be reduced to 45 mph on the new route."
East bound and down, loaded up and truckin'
We gonna do what they say can't be done
We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there
I'm east bound, just watch ol' Bandit run
Jerry Reed - East Bound and Down from Smokey and the Bandit soundtrack |
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Cusser
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I predict:
1. There will still be a big backup each way as 2 lanes merge into 1, even though it is in the middle of nowhere.
2. Because of that, speeds over that will be way less than 45mph in reality !!!
I'm not traveling that way until a few weeks yet. One co-worker got stuck in that, had to go east to Desert Center, then back to Indio, then south to I-8 returning to AZ.
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gt1953
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Yep it will be like 80mph to the 45 mph zone hang up then 80 mph again, you better beleive that ranger rick black and white will be writing citations.
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kamzcab86
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I predict:
1. There will still be a big backup each way as 2 lanes merge into 1, even though it is in the middle of nowhere.
2. Because of that, speeds over that will be way less than 45mph in reality !!! |
Absolutely; it will be more like 10-15 mph with lots of idling in between. Road construction is bad enough when they dump each side down to one lane (had the pleasure of enduring that on 10 at the beginning of the year), this will be just as bad, if not worse. 
I'll be sticking with 62 and 40 until the bridge is fixed... just have to add a couple of extra hours to my time schedule.
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Randall
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For all of you doubters, are you going to tell me that you haven't seen cars on a NASCAR track bunched together closer than this yet going way faster than 45?
Click on the photo at the beginning of the updated article to open up a 12 photo slide: http://www.pe.com/articles/bridge-774569-eastbound-repairs.html
"Repairs on eastbound bridge expected to be finished by the end of September ..." |
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Cusser
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Cusser
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OK, it's been a few weeks now. So has ANYONE actually driven this way on Interstate 10 since the detour/repair/single lane and can report on how much delay extra time this will take. like "20 minutes, Cuss" ? Thanks.
Or is detour to Interstate 8 recommended ?
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gt1953
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I had had a nasty wreck at 1:10 amm this morning and probably closed for a while.
closed due to crash
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On Interstate 8, West-bound from mile post 151.0, 0.60 miles West of SR-84 to mile post 139.0, 5.50 miles West of Vekol Valley Rd
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August 11 from 1:13 A.M. Until Further Notice
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| I10 was fine last week for me. |
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Randall
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OK, it's been a few weeks now. So has ANYONE actually driven this way on Interstate 10 since the detour/repair/single lane and can report on how much delay extra time this will take. like "20 minutes, Cuss" ? Thanks.
Or is detour to Interstate 8 recommended ? |
I haven't driven it but my sources tell me that currently the delay is going to be like "14 minutes, Cuss". So it will take you only 14 minutes extra to drive the 46.5 miles from Desert Center west to the intersection of I-10 & CA86 (actually Dillon Rd) located just east of Indio. At this real-time traffic map website http://www.metro.net/interactives/511/ look at the map insert in the bottom right corner. Click on RC (for Riverside County). Drag and zoom-in on that map until you find Desert Center, which is about 2.5 miles east of the bridge collapse. On the map just east of Desert Center is a Message Sign icon. There might even be an actual road sign there. ¿Quién sabe? Mouse over the icon and it will show you the current time to Dillon Rd (and two other destinations). Currently it is 54 minutes, for an average of 50.7 mph.
This map shows that the normal time, before the bridge collapse, for that same distance is 40 minutes. https://goo.gl/maps/EjMoA |
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