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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:16 pm    Post subject: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

here's a short run down of my bus and my plans. I have a 1978 VW bay window bus that has a 2332cc beetle engine in it. The motor is duel weber 44 carbed, fresh transmission rebuild, with a magnaspark ignition system on the engine. their is an added exterior oil cooler mounted in the engine compartment( where I plan to mount a fan as well). I have added an oil pressure gauge, oil temp gauge, and a tac. Me and some friends are planning on going on a cross country road trip this coming summer. what are some tips for the preparation, and the maintaining of my bus from people who know what their talking about. Any help is welcome.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

Welcome!

That's one heckuva 1st post.

Your question is really broad and you'd probably benefit from reading lots of existing threads.

I'll start:

Have you replaced all fuel lines?

Best of luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

yea wow that's a lot. I'd like to see pictures of that
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

I can post some pictures tomorrow
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

Make room for bringing a replacement long block. and tools along with:

credit card
AAA towing
your friends credit cards
Beer. Laughing

Where in Kentucky do you call home?
as i have family there...Hopkinsville for one town.

We all will watch your trip and hope it is a good one.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

In the first 12,800 miles of my road trip, the only tools I needed were feeler gauges, a 13mm wrench, and a 21mm wrench to drain the oil. After that is when shit got interesting.

Good luck with your trip; learn as much as you can about your bus, because when you have the cylinder head in your lap two thousand miles from home, you'll want to be able to tell if it's the left or right head and be 100% certain. I know that's a silly metaphor. But knowledge is power, and no amount of boring and stoking can match that kind of power.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

Depending on your route, I hope you're familiar with those Webers, they are really sensitive to altitude. I've had several instances where I was just able to make it to the top of a large climb right as the engine flooded.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

Keep your speeds down and definitely set up a network of people to support you on the road. Find a way to give back to the community to pay this back....creating media and pictures is not " giving back" it's just self-promulgation.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
....creating media and pictures is not " giving back" it's just self-promulgation.


TRUE DAT!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

oil cooler in the engine comparment? you'd be better off putting it somewhere outside
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

Get yourself a nice set of tools. Then get yourself a few replacement parts. Then learn how to use the tools and install the replacement parts. Then do a lot of reading here on the samba. Then chart your course and identify places where you can get help along the way. Then have a support system you can reach out to when the SHTF.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

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oil cooler in the engine comparment? you'd be better off putting it somewhere outside

Or simply removing it. In the engine compartment, even with the proposed fan, the heat will go to engine compartment air, which is used to cool the heads. The warmer that air is (warmed by the oil cooler) the less effective the air cooling is.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

More important than the things you posted is: How well do you know your bus? How long have you had it and how far have you driven it?

Have you maintained all the things that need to be maintained - fuel lines, adjusting valves, etc...

Are you comfortable doing work on it?

If it is well maintained and you are familiar with it and can work on it, you should be fine.

I have driven my bus all over and drove a Super Beetle across country - they are very dependable and tenacious when well maintained.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

BUSBOSS wrote:
Your question is really broad and you'd probably benefit from reading lots of existing threads.


Definitely.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

If you're running a built Beetle engine in a bus designed for a type IV, you need to make sure the engine compartment is fully sealed or you'll overheat pretty quickly. If you can see the ground under the bus from anywhere inside the engine compartment you'll have to seal it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

The only thing you need to do is put 750-1000 local miles on it,
note oil consumption & carry enough oil for the trip + oil change.
Don't get caught in the middle of nowhere with no lube.
As far as tools, once you witness your buses behavior driving locally,
you'll know what tools to take, or even if it's safe to leave your home state.
You are planning far enough ahead to have a stable bus to drive anywhere,
enjoy your Summer Bus Tour 2017.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

What they said and:
I would add a cylinder head temp gauge, and take it out for some runs fully loaded as you plan to travel. Make notes on what the gauges tell you for the driving you are doing, kind of as a benchmark so you know the parameters you have to work with. Make your traveling companions commit to driving the bus within those parameters, unless you are going to do all the driving.
Spend some effort getting the engine and brakes tuned and ready to go, the right tires and a spare, lay in parts not readily available on the road, and stash a few hundred in cash on board for the ohshit fund.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

jtauxe wrote:
Slow 1200 wrote:
oil cooler in the engine comparment? you'd be better off putting it somewhere outside

Or simply removing it. In the engine compartment, even with the proposed fan, the heat will go to engine compartment air, which is used to cool the heads. The warmer that air is (warmed by the oil cooler) the less effective the air cooling is.


I have over 20k worth of miles with my cooler in the engine bay and I've had no issues at all. With either oil or head temps, this should not be an issue. A well tuned engine, some basic tools, basic knowledge, AAA membership, lots of money and/or Ccard should be fine. Oh yea, if something happens don't freak out.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Bay window on a 10,000 mile road trip Reply with quote

Now THAT is the quintessential party bus!
Go forth and conquer! Cool

(Are you sure that's an oil cooler? Could be the refrigerant coil for the kegerator...)
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