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rclark97 Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2015 Posts: 2 Location: Columbus, GA
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:05 am Post subject: Vin trouble |
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im working on insurance today for my buggy and ive run into a few problems. my donor vehicle was parted out to me before i knew much about it and the vin i have is clean as far as vehicle history so insurance shouldnt care too much about that but id like to have the correct year when i tell them about the car. ive read through the vin and chassis charts but im having no luck with finding what year beetle this vin is from. the PO of the donor told me that it was most likely a 73 or a 74 beetle. i changed the last two digits for the forum for security but it is #1342484500 does anyone have an idea where this vin is from? |
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philthy Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2006 Posts: 241 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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We cannot help you decode a VIN if you don't give us all the correct digits. It's not like a SSN man _________________ 74 Baja 1600 Dual ICT |
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philthy Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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We cannot help you decode a VIN if you don't give us all the correct digits. It's not like a SSN man. Also, 1 is the code for manufactured in the USA, second should be a letter, not a number. This gives us the vehicle manufacturer. Should be V for Volkswagen. The 10th digit is the model year. It breaks down as such: 1-1971, 2-1972, 3-1973, 4-1974, 5-1975, 6-1976, 7-1977, 8-1978, 9-1979 _________________ 74 Baja 1600 Dual ICT |
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4927 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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philthy wrote: |
We cannot help you decode a VIN if you don't give us all the correct digits. It's not like a SSN man. Also, 1 is the code for manufactured in the USA, (WRONG) second should be a letter, not a number.(WRONG) This gives us the vehicle manufacturer. Should be V for Volkswagen.[b](WRONG) [/b]The 10th digit is the model year. (WRONG) It breaks down as such: 1-1971, 2-1972, 3-1973, 4-1974, 5-1975, 6-1976, 7-1977, 8-1978, 9-1979 |
Wrong.
VWs did not have letters in their VIN -
Beetles were never made in the USA.
10th digit is NOT model year... 3rd digit denotes model year in the 10-digit numeric string.
1973 Beetle would be '113 X XXX XXX'
1974 Beetle would be '114 X XXX XXX'
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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philthy Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2006 Posts: 241 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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I was using a standard VIN decoder. I stand corrected _________________ 74 Baja 1600 Dual ICT |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hey didget69, philthy must be thinking about the modern 17 digit VIN #s, for what it's worth, WVW prefix is a German built car, 1VW is a Pennsylvania built car, 3VW is a Mexico built car & 4VW is a Brazil built car. I'm sure there are others, I just haven't run into the Canada or South Carolina cars yet. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Is it a real VW VIN or a "state" issued VIN for a kit car or special construction...
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4927 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
Hey didget69, philthy must be thinking about the modern 17 digit VIN #s, for what it's worth, WVW prefix is a German built car, 1VW is a Pennsylvania built car, 3VW is a Mexico built car & 4VW is a Brazil built car. I'm sure there are others, I just haven't run into the Canada or South Carolina cars yet. |
No Aircooled VW's were manufactured in the US. Pennsylvania built cars were water cooled cars. Is VIN number stamped in chassis at trans tunnel?
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in agreement with Didget here.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php
One thing to note about this chart..."Year" in the 1st column indicates CALENDAR year, not MODEL YEAR. The new model year manufacturing started August 1st. So a car built on 8/3/1966 with a VIN 117 000 374 would be a 1967 year model car.
Since the VIN posted by the OP does not follow VW's VIN scheme, it must be one applied to the donor car by a state motor vehicle department or other agency. Such as if the car had at some time been "totalled", for instance stolen and then recovered after it was written off by the insurance company, and then "salvaged". That being the case, there is absolutely no way to tell what year model the car was from the VIN. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest that beetles were made in the U.S., I was just pointing out that the prefixes designated the country of origin in the modern VIN#s. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
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DuaneL Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2012 Posts: 511 Location: Spokane WA
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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the VIN posted by the OP does follow VW's VIN scheme, if it is 1974 super the second digit 3 would denote it being a super (you have to remember that staring in 73 all supers had a 3 as the second digit whereas the standard continued to use 1 as the second digit) _________________ ____________
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didget69 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 4927 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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DuaneL wrote: |
the VIN posted by the OP does follow VW's VIN scheme, if it is 1974 super the second digit 3 would denote it being a super (you have to remember that staring in 73 all supers had a 3 as the second digit whereas the standard continued to use 1 as the second digit) |
DuaneL is correct - I had to hunt for SB chassis VIN info...
This chassis VIN mentioned by original poster appears to potentially be a Aug 73 - Jul 74 production Super Beetle VIN - IF the VIN number on title paperwork matches the stamped chassis number.
See if chassis number at tunnel looks like this > *1342484500*
Source: http://www.superbeetles.com/chassis.htm
bnc _________________ I never found the need to impress people with any mechanic certifications, trophies or track wins... unless it was for Mom to post on the refrigerator door. |
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Aha! Good of you to catch that. I was presuming a regular Beetle, not a Super. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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