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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:05 am    Post subject: Vin trouble Reply with quote

im working on insurance today for my buggy and ive run into a few problems. my donor vehicle was parted out to me before i knew much about it and the vin i have is clean as far as vehicle history so insurance shouldnt care too much about that but id like to have the correct year when i tell them about the car. ive read through the vin and chassis charts but im having no luck with finding what year beetle this vin is from. the PO of the donor told me that it was most likely a 73 or a 74 beetle. i changed the last two digits for the forum for security but it is #1342484500 does anyone have an idea where this vin is from?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We cannot help you decode a VIN if you don't give us all the correct digits. It's not like a SSN man
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We cannot help you decode a VIN if you don't give us all the correct digits. It's not like a SSN man. Also, 1 is the code for manufactured in the USA, second should be a letter, not a number. This gives us the vehicle manufacturer. Should be V for Volkswagen. The 10th digit is the model year. It breaks down as such: 1-1971, 2-1972, 3-1973, 4-1974, 5-1975, 6-1976, 7-1977, 8-1978, 9-1979
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We cannot help you decode a VIN if you don't give us all the correct digits. It's not like a SSN man. Also, 1 is the code for manufactured in the USA, (WRONG) second should be a letter, not a number.(WRONG) This gives us the vehicle manufacturer. Should be V for Volkswagen.[b](WRONG) [/b]The 10th digit is the model year. (WRONG) It breaks down as such: 1-1971, 2-1972, 3-1973, 4-1974, 5-1975, 6-1976, 7-1977, 8-1978, 9-1979


Wrong.
VWs did not have letters in their VIN -

Beetles were never made in the USA.

10th digit is NOT model year... 3rd digit denotes model year in the 10-digit numeric string.

1973 Beetle would be '113 X XXX XXX'
1974 Beetle would be '114 X XXX XXX'

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was using a standard VIN decoder. I stand corrected
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey didget69, philthy must be thinking about the modern 17 digit VIN #s, for what it's worth, WVW prefix is a German built car, 1VW is a Pennsylvania built car, 3VW is a Mexico built car & 4VW is a Brazil built car. I'm sure there are others, I just haven't run into the Canada or South Carolina cars yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a real VW VIN or a "state" issued VIN for a kit car or special construction...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
Hey didget69, philthy must be thinking about the modern 17 digit VIN #s, for what it's worth, WVW prefix is a German built car, 1VW is a Pennsylvania built car, 3VW is a Mexico built car & 4VW is a Brazil built car. I'm sure there are others, I just haven't run into the Canada or South Carolina cars yet.


No Aircooled VW's were manufactured in the US. Pennsylvania built cars were water cooled cars. Is VIN number stamped in chassis at trans tunnel?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in agreement with Didget here.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php

One thing to note about this chart..."Year" in the 1st column indicates CALENDAR year, not MODEL YEAR. The new model year manufacturing started August 1st. So a car built on 8/3/1966 with a VIN 117 000 374 would be a 1967 year model car.

Since the VIN posted by the OP does not follow VW's VIN scheme, it must be one applied to the donor car by a state motor vehicle department or other agency. Such as if the car had at some time been "totalled", for instance stolen and then recovered after it was written off by the insurance company, and then "salvaged". That being the case, there is absolutely no way to tell what year model the car was from the VIN.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest that beetles were made in the U.S., I was just pointing out that the prefixes designated the country of origin in the modern VIN#s.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the VIN posted by the OP does follow VW's VIN scheme, if it is 1974 super the second digit 3 would denote it being a super (you have to remember that staring in 73 all supers had a 3 as the second digit whereas the standard continued to use 1 as the second digit)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuaneL wrote:
the VIN posted by the OP does follow VW's VIN scheme, if it is 1974 super the second digit 3 would denote it being a super (you have to remember that staring in 73 all supers had a 3 as the second digit whereas the standard continued to use 1 as the second digit)


DuaneL is correct - I had to hunt for SB chassis VIN info...

This chassis VIN mentioned by original poster appears to potentially be a Aug 73 - Jul 74 production Super Beetle VIN - IF the VIN number on title paperwork matches the stamped chassis number.

See if chassis number at tunnel looks like this > *1342484500*

Source: http://www.superbeetles.com/chassis.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha! Good of you to catch that. I was presuming a regular Beetle, not a Super.
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