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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:54 pm    Post subject: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

I have a 63 KG and might re chrome the bumpers this winter. Is there any way to determine if the bumpers I have on the car are original VW bumpers??
and not a cheap imitation from ??? I have tried looking for markings on the different pieces and found nothing. I have tried comparing the thickness of the metal to a 3rd bumper I have that I am fairly sure is a VW bumper, and cant tell the difference so far. Any insight would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

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I have a 63 KG and might re chrome the bumpers this winter. Is there any way to determine if the bumpers I have on the car are original VW bumpers??
and not a cheap imitation from ??? I have tried looking for markings on the different pieces and found nothing. I have tried comparing the thickness of the metal to a 3rd bumper I have that I am fairly sure is a VW bumper, and cant tell the difference so far. Any insight would be appreciated.


If you have a '63 and your bumpers look stock they will be original. Over the years, there have been plenty originals available so no repros were made as far as I know.

That was then...now, when it has become increasingly difficult to find a chrome shop that will do a good job for a reasonable price, many go for the Stainless Steel reproductions that have appeared over the last 10 years or so.

Any easy choice? Not exactly. Confused

If you have a reasonable set of bumpers that don't need too much straightening and a chrome shop that will do a good job for less than a "king's ransom", most would choose that option.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

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I have a 63 KG and might re chrome the bumpers this winter. Is there any way to determine if the bumpers I have on the car are original VW bumpers??
and not a cheap imitation from ??? I have tried looking for markings on the different pieces and found nothing. I have tried comparing the thickness of the metal to a 3rd bumper I have that I am fairly sure is a VW bumper, and cant tell the difference so far. Any insight would be appreciated.


I think you can be assured they are originals. I don't think anyone made repros for a 63...until recently and those are stainless steel.

As mentioned if what you have is in good shape and you have a good chrome shop then that would be the way to go...even if its more money than the stainless.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post some pics of the bumpers. They most likely are original ghia bumpers...original to the car could be different answer. I have seen plenty of 60's ghias with 70/71 rear bumpers (short towel bars) on them. They fit and may look ok but they are not original to the car.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

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cmakvw wrote:
I have a 63 KG and might re chrome the bumpers this winter. Is there any way to determine if the bumpers I have on the car are original VW bumpers??
and not a cheap imitation from ??? I have tried looking for markings on the different pieces and found nothing. I have tried comparing the thickness of the metal to a 3rd bumper I have that I am fairly sure is a VW bumper, and cant tell the difference so far. Any insight would be appreciated.


I think you can be assured they are originals. I don't think anyone made repros for a 63...until recently and those are stainless steel.

As mentioned if what you have is in good shape and you have a good chrome shop then that would be the way to go...even if its more money than the stainless.

Back when my son worked for Rocky Mountain Motorworks (about 15 years ago) There was a German company that claimed to have the original Ghia bumper dies and contemplated reproducing parts. I don't know if they ever went into production. In any event, a pre-production sample of a pre-67 left rear blade somehow made its way from Woodland Park, Colorado to my basement stash of stuff. It looked absolutely identical to a genuine n.o.s. piece that I also had-- except the re-pop was very slightly lighter in weight. I never did mic the two to compare them for gauge however. I sold it a year ago (of course disclosing this info) along with an original right rear blade to a gentleman in Hawaii. Maybe Kalapaki Papa will see this and comment.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Thanks for the replies. I have had the car for many years so most likely not a reproduction. A qoute on a rechrome for a complete bumper with overiders is 750-1000. Does this sound like current rates?? No idea, 25 years ago it was around $250 .....ouch.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmakvw wrote:
OK. Thanks for the replies. I have had the car for many years so most likely not a reproduction. A qoute on a rechrome for a complete bumper with overiders is 750-1000. Does this sound like current rates?? No idea, 25 years ago it was around $250 .....ouch.


About right.

Make sure they do good work before they start.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would add that if I could have found a shop near where I live that did good work I would have paid the price for the rechrome.

I went with the SS repros because I could not find a shop that could do a good job near where I live.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

I have some bumpers with a finish that leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone painted them the metallic color of the stock rims? Or something close to chrome? I would think that would be more economical and would still look good.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

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I have some bumpers with a finish that leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone painted them the metallic color of the stock rims? Or something close to chrome? I would think that would be more economical and would still look good.


I have used the Almost Chrome type of products but not on bumpers. It does not have the shine.

You could take a look to see if a shop near you does spray on chrome which would probably be half the price of rechroming - about the same as SS repros.

A lot of what you see on new cars is spray on chrome. It does look good although I am not sure how durable it would be for a bumpers.

Google spray on chrome to see more.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

You can also check into powder coating them, they have some close to chrome look finishes.

Someone who owns my old 66 ghia probably hates me today, I had the bumpers stripped, tossed the over riders in the trash, welded them to make them one piece and painted them black. Embarassed Hey im the A-hole PO. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about bumpers for a KG Reply with quote

c21darrel wrote:
I had the bumpers stripped, tossed the over riders in the trash, welded them to make them one piece and painted them black Shocked

You should never admit to stuff like that, Darrel Wink
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