"Electric" rear light lens

375475 · Samba Member Joined: December 05, 2014 Posts: 63

Hi all...............

does anyone know if these aftermarket "Electric" light lens fit a standard vw bug (1965 type light) ?

I know these came with their own light bodies that had a kind of fluted pattern but im getting contrasting opinions on if they do or don't

all help much appreciated

arizonabuckeye · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:19 pm Post subject:

Do you have a link to the lights you are asking about?

VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:22 pm Post subject:

I dont know the answer... but sure as hell can reference....

"Electric Accessory Tail Lights"

Meaning.. the.. 50/50 style..

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or...

the 2/3 style..

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375475 · Samba Member Joined: December 05, 2014 Posts: 63

yep they are the ones.........didn't realise there were 50/50 & a 2/3 type

arizonabuckeye · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:47 pm Post subject:

Right.... I thought he was asking for reviews/opinions on a specific aftermarket product not general OE taillight questions...

KTPhil · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:02 pm Post subject:

375475 · Samba Member Joined: December 05, 2014 Posts: 63

well im looking into whether I can put on the "electric" 2/3 type on my standard rear light bodies as my old original hella lens have not got the tell tale cracks all over the top & the "electric" type will match up with my front indicators pretty well (see pics)

So, in theory I want to remove the 2 screws - ditch the hellas & simply screw on a pair of electric lens to my retained/original rear lamp body ..........but can I ?

I ask as 1 seller says yes & 1 says no ??????????????

apologies if not being clear initially

my original current rear lamp

indicator

VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:27 am Post subject:

^ Always lilked those front turns with the side window.. Easy enough to make.. Wink

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VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:55 am Post subject:

From the "other" threads I have read.... yes..
and
To add a safety factor to semaphore cars..
Plus...
I think Italy and Australia were the most common countries to find these in as "some" countries required a separate and or amber turn signal..

Hence a dual bulb tail light.....

VW later followed the better idea and began using something similar.

(You seem to have the Italian front turn side window covers as well.. ???)

I can not find the topics... but thats what I remember.. Embarassed

Here is one with dead links....But there are more.. somewhere..
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=581677

The Aftermarket "electric tail lights" were offered BEFORE VW started using the similar larger tail lights found on most 62 -67.
I think Mera and Perohaus were the suppliers of these electric tail items we are referring

I cant take credit for any pictures.. and any information I have passed along.. it may or may not be 100% accurate..

In all honesty.. I snagged most of the pictures from the classified to archive for TheSamba.. as currently a NOS set is the classified.

I hate for good information to be lost... or worse.. lost because of improper and dead photo links..

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375475 · Samba Member Joined: December 05, 2014 Posts: 63

BIG thanks for all that info, I can see why the confusion arises as the electric lights do look very like the post / pre tomb stone type of rear lamp

as my initial ad read my car is 65, could they have also made these electric style for the later cars like mine too? I say this as some of the pics with electric lens on bodies don't look like the snowflake type as aren't these more a rounded profile as they meet the lens ? hard to tell with pics maybe

love to see a pic of rear lamps discussed side by side

the indicators are indeed Italian spec I like them as they give me more "Blink" from my 6 volts

VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:32 pm Post subject:

The "electric tail lights" and their housings are nearly the same size as the common 62-67 VW tail lamps.

They are much larger than the "snowflakes".

Clearly you can tell wiih this picture.

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bluebus86 · Banned Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075

I'd be most interested to see the non-electric tail lights? gas operated?
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VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:18 am Post subject:

VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:52 pm Post subject:

More info found for the 50/50 style..

For Australia and Italy.

" the rear lenses being of a design used only in Australia and Italy. "

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=347614

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Karly · Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:43 pm Post subject:

I have 50'50s on my bug.. they are smaller than the later lights but bigger than snowflakes. So the lenses themselves aren't interchangeable - you need different housing/bases and I had to get custom rubber seals made for them as well.
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VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:32 am Post subject:

ItaType3 · Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: "Electric" rear light lens

Some little additional information on the 50/50 lights

In Italy in 1958 a new law was introduced for road traffic: the orange light was mandatory (in the back).
So VW produced, for Italy, these lights from 1958 until July 1961.
I don't know the history of Australian law.

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