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Maxoceanblue
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 Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: Flywheel lock won't fit |
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Is it possible I have a larger flywheel? Trying to take it off and the flywheel lock won't line up with the hole in the case I'm to run a bolt through.
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KTPhil 
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| Pictures would help. Some flywheel locks have two sides (6V and 12V). |
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Maxoceanblue
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Lock fits on the teeth but won't line up with the hole in the case to run a bolt through
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Northof49
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Can't see the hole. Is it as simple as just turning the crank/flywheel slightly?
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planenut
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| Did you try to turn it over? |
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iowegian
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| Northof49 wrote: |
| Can't see the hole. Is it as simple as just turning the crank/flywheel slightly? |
Or maybe drill a new hole in the case?  |
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Maxoceanblue
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I've tried flipping it over. It won't fit within the teeth is I flip it over. I know how its supposed to work.
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Well, you know there is nothing wrong with your case or flywheel, right?
And, by your pictures that tool indeed looks like it is a Generic VW 6/12 volt flywheel lock tool that has been used at least once before, right?
What does that leave? Looks to me like it's tooth on the left may be bent outward, and the tooth on the right bent inward, so I'd blame the tool as your issue. Causes could be poor quality steel or mis-use.
Your choices are either get a better/new one, or force that one into submission by first installing it loosely using a longer bolt then drawing it into engagement with the flywheel teeth using the bolt threads to pull it in tight.
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Maxoceanblue
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Here is what it looks like flipped over. Only one tooth engages with the tool. The problem is the whole on the lock doesn't line up with the hole on the case. It's not a matter of turning the flywheel. The flywheel seems to be a larger diameter.
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Maxoceanblue
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fla2smoker
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That tool doesnt look healthy but try screwing it in and letting it catch on the right end to remove the gland nut or left end to tighten should be ok.
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caleb0101
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| iowegian wrote: |
| Northof49 wrote: |
| Can't see the hole. Is it as simple as just turning the crank/flywheel slightly? |
Or maybe drill a new hole in the case? |
drilling a new hole is a really bad idea! Don't do it!
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iowegian
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| iowegian wrote: |
| Northof49 wrote: |
| Can't see the hole. Is it as simple as just turning the crank/flywheel slightly? |
Or maybe drill a new hole in the case? |
drilling a new hole is a really bad idea! Don't do it! |
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williamM
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:26 am Post subject: |
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6v flywheel is 180mm. 12v flywheel is 200mm. Is your car an auto stick model?
Is the front tin causing an obstruction for allowing the lock tool from sitting properly? |
not always- I have a 200 /o-ring- 6vt flywheel for my bus.
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I confess I've never seen the wisdom of using this tool, when a simple angle iron bolted to the flywheel does a far better job.
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You rich guys crack me up ; 
Just go out to the Air Conditioned garage and cut up some iron pipe and make one !!! 
YES it works FINE !!! 
AND it's fully adjustable ; if it doesn't fit the flywheel groves just wack it with a big hammer 
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Maxoceanblue
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Rare air, what am I to measure, the diameter? From edge to edge of mine is 275mm
It's a manual.
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Maxoceanblue
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It's an 8 dowel flywheel, if that makes a difference.
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