VW cheating on diesel emissions.....

VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:37 am Post subject:

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79SuperVert · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:10 am Post subject:

In the doctor's office yesterday a VW diesel owner was ranting about the whole situation. It's impossible to tell just how much damage this has done to VW. And this morning there's more news that Porsche and Audi vehicles may also be involved.
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VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:21 am Post subject:

It's pretty sad how quickly any so called VW loyalty goes straight in the shitter over some media and exhaust fumes..
I'm asked often..
" So what do you think about the whole VW lying and deceiving thing"

My response. =
Its a witch hunt now. ..... this is just the beginning.
There will be more..
Vw will survive.. Next..

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79SuperVert · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:21 am Post subject:

I'm coming very late to this discussion so forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse on some of this.

Until the full extent of the fix becomes apparent, yes, this sounds like "...some media and exhaust fumes...", but if you own one of these cars the uncertainty is something you didn't bargain for when you bought it.

This person was a loyal VW diesel owner and had never had problems with her previous diesel, but the one she has now had experienced a series of engine problems from the moment she bought it.

Now she is faced with the prospect of being forced to let the dealer make the changes, because NJ emissions stations will not accept VW diesels without written certification that VW performed whatever modifications are ultimately implemented.

So she is living with uncertainty as to the extent the modifications will reduce performance, increase fuel consumption, and affect the value of her car. Not something a loyal VW owner should have to live with.
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EVfun · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:24 am Post subject:

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VOLKSWAGNUT · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:47 am Post subject:

itskyle

What are the chances of this being a primer to get people ready to accept a new car company that only makes self driving cars?

First, they go after Toyota for the unattended acceleration.

Then, vw for dieselgate.

Then, somebody else for unsafe airbags. Come on, their explosive devices, exactly how safe do you think they'd be?

but seriously, vws fifteen minutes of infamy will be up soon as soon as another car company end sup being caught out on something else.

My bet, is either Ford or Subaru.

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gooser

well it's hurting their sales. i'm sure no one is surprised.

wcfvw69

EVfun

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GArBa

quality control wasn't always up to spec even in the last years of euro-beetle production, though. VW had IMHO built a lot of its reputation on the actual quality peak they reached in the early sixties.

As for current cars, I've come to think that no matter the make, with the current carmaking phylosophy you are always at risk of getting a lemon.

during the early nineties my dad used to have a Mk2 golf and then an audi 80, and literally never had any problem with them. my father-in-law's Mk5 passat TDI, on the other hand, has had its engine rebuilt a couple of times and has even left him on the road in several occasions.
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sb001 · Last edited by sb001 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:47 pm; edited 1 time in total

Bosch may be in deep too now--

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-bosch-sued-over-alleged-role-in-vw-diesel-emissions-scandal-2015-12

Still, I just don't consider this that big a deal--certainly not to the extent the press has made it out to be. I mean, at least VW came right out and admitted it, and no one got killed from cheating emissions. Toyota and GM on the other hand...:

http://mashable.com/2014/03/19/toyota-lied-aceleration-recall/#h1JOjLzLG8q8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_ignition_switch_scandal
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sb001

Oh and one more thing-- I owned a 2013 Kia Soul over the past couple years- and Kia flat lied about the fuel efficiency rating on loads of Kia and Hyundai cars-- where was the big hoopla over that? The EPA made them go back and change the ratings to reflect the actual fuel mileage, but I don't remember hearing one report about it on the news. Kia didn't send out any notices about it or anything. Only reason I found out about it (and how to get compensated for it) was because someone I worked with told me about it.

F*@$ you media conglomerates for turning a not that big a deal story into a disaster of epic proportions
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Bennym777

The Mexican fi beetle let rain through the cooling holes in the rear lid, this fried the engines.

VW's answer was to sell customers plastic covers, to make money out of their own mistake.

I have heard about so many other warranty failures that they have refused to fix and charged for.

When it was reported I wasn't surprised at all.

I lost all respect for VW when they re-released the Beetle and made it into a Barbie car.

As long as the Germans can get paid for working 25 hrs a week, they don't give a flying shite about any customer or loyalty.

They deserve everything they have coming to them and more for years of neglect.

GArBa

weisswurst

well, with the holidays coming and having two qualifying TDI's (one for the wife's DD and my DD I decided to register for the visa cards and the vouchers good at the dealer.
https://www.vwdieselinfo.com/goodwill_package/

I don't think it's enough since I paid a 3-4K premium for each car over the gas model when new but hey, it's a start and 500 on a card good anywhere visa spends and 500 more dealer credit on each car to spend at the dealer (I need an 80K service on one right now anyway) is going to help a little with expenses now.

All the fine print says "no rights are given up" and "this is the first thing while we figure out how to fix things with the customers"

Also they offer 3 years more roadside assist on both cars and ours just expired so that's kind of cool.

Just thought I would share my decision in case anyone else on here is considering registering as I finally went and did since this was offered in Nov.
I still love my car just bummed about the bad press this is causing for the diesel community. Confused

Bennym777

The rain problem in the 1600i sedan is not a myth.

Have lived here in Mexico for many years and seen it first hand.

Just a quick google search and here is a guy who´s distributor got wet and the vocho wouldnt start:

https://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080611200516AALBBZN


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