headlights and blinkers

OrangeMango · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:59 pm Post subject:

So I think this might be why my blinkers are going so fast, I looked closer and it has wires for the top and bottom, but the flasher I have is the left, top, and right. Could that be the problem?

Also my I tried looking at my horn again and it still won't work, I can't get a ground out of my steering wheel.

ashman40 · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:00 am Post subject:

OrangeMango · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:58 am Post subject:

This is the picture I took yesterday and forgot to post.

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If you loom closely you only see plugs on the top and bottom one. Not the middle or sides.

Also I didn't mention it earlier because I've just had the horn disconnected but was thinking maybe the horn could cause an issue some when in the column for the blinker but looking closer at the wiring it should go around and not mess with anything of the blinkers.

I'll create a new thread or search and see if someone else has had the same issue with the horn. Thanks. Also I'll post the information on everything else when I get home tonight.

OrangeMango · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:36 pm Post subject:

So I was looking at the relays and unplugged the one on the end and plugged it into the middle, thinking hey there both 3 prong, and everything worked but my emergency flashers, plugged the old one in and it wants to work again. I wanna jump off a bridge with how confused I am.

Now I still don't know what the one on the right controls while all my electric works.

So I was pulled the lever for the windshield wiper fluid but it popped the 10th fuse. I then tried to switch the red and whites around to see if that would work, all my lights still work. Why?? Shouldn't with the wrong fuses something shouldn't work right?

ashman40 · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject:

OrangeMango · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:41 am Post subject:

I'm trying to go based boffins the picture of the fuses diagram posted above, the middle flasher runs the emergency and the blinkers, the left one my low/high beam switch. The right one I don't know because it has 2 wires run to it, the top and bottom, if you look closer at the picture I posted about you might be able to see it but it's hard to make out, but the flasher that came with it was a 3 prong so I tried replacing it with a 3 prong also thinking it controlled my blinkers but I was wrong, the middle flasher relay controls that. So I'm seriously confused what those run to especially since only 1 has been plugged in the entire time. Also I tried switching the fuses because the old diagram I has said it went white red white red, while the updated says differently, maybe that was the issue, still blue it so I was wrong again. Still my wipers work but as dar as I know the wiper fluid leaver only operates off of pressure from the spare tire correct? So why would it pop the fuse? Unless it's supposed to auto activate the wipers after a spray, that's what a friend told me could be the issue. If it's any addition my radio has stopped working as well.city feel like this has gotten worse the closer I get to fixing it, or at least 2 problems pop for every one fix, damn hydra.

pgtips · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:05 am Post subject:

But your connecting to dirty terminals . . . Idea

Per few posts ago, you needed to get it all clean, get some fine sand paper and clean up all the fuse tangs then give them a wipe with white spirit, clean up your fuse ends, also replace the connectors at the point where they plug into your lights and clean up the light terminals as well, make sure the springy bit (the tangs) touch the light.

Is not a hard job but if you don't do it you will be shooting in the dark forever. I can instantly see from your fuse pic they are not cleaned up.

Also it will make future problems less likely and / or easier to trace.

If you don't know what I mean ask and I'll explain with pics, I had to learn once and there's nothing wrong in asking.
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OrangeMango · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:14 pm Post subject:

Ok I'll go back over them with sand paper again and see if I can clean them better, I was Googling and I guess someone took their off and used coke to clean it off. I'll try and clean that up but I don't know why pulling the leaver for the windshield wiper fluid would pop the fuse.

ashman40 · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject:

pgtips · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:41 am Post subject:

ashman40 · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:13 am Post subject:

pgtips · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:52 am Post subject:

yes very different to mine. Mine are like the budget beetle version, obviously there's a deluxe model out there too Smile

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1971 356 kit 1600 TP - semi/stickshift
1971 1302 LS - semi/stickshift

Trim ring info here -> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=559668
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=451210
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=479721

OrangeMango · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:40 pm Post subject:

Yes My 72 had the switch as a arm, not in dash.

This is the 2 wires going to the flasher on the right side, its a red one that leads to the fuse box, the #10 fuse, the same fuse that keeps popping, and the other wire is blue/gray. The brown one running to the are for the dome light inside the car. I believe the blue/gray ones are for the door buzzer. I left those connected when I replaced the door jam for the light, I should probably remove those but could those be causing a ground out and the fuse to pop? They do dun to the 10th fuse by what I can tell.

pgtips · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:15 am Post subject:

ashman40 · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:16 am Post subject:

OrangeMango · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:33 pm Post subject:

I looked closer at it was the #9 it's connected to. Been super busy and haven't been able to talk a look at it.

ashman40 · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:27 pm Post subject:

If you want a door buzzer, find the correct "buzzer relay" and install it making sure the correct colored wires will be on the correct terminals of the relay.

If you don't care if you get an annoying buzz when the door is opened then leave the door buzzer relay out and don't worry about it. If you have the proper door switches installed the dome light will still turn ON when the doors open.
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DesignBuild · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:47 am Post subject: Re: headlights and blinkers

I am having a heck of a time getting my directional light to work. They worked fine last week but then I was trying to get the emergency flashers to work and I think I caused a short.
I too have a 1972 1302 German manufactured for Europe Super Beetle and the buzzer for leaving the ignition key in the switch has no wires installed for the buzzer. If you look at the left most box it is for the headlights, the next space is blank the next or third space is for the three pronged flasher for directional and emergency lights, the fourth is empty and in my car the last to the right is empty too.
My front lights are directional only no parking light or marker function, single contact and now use a 93 bulb. I couldn't find any 1156 bulbs. The rear directional is the upper bulb with a yellow lens and a single contact bulb. I have replaced all bulbs and cleaned contacts, etc.
I am wondering if I might have to hook up the emergency flasher switch again to get the directional lights to work? I couldn't get the emergency lights to work so I took out the switch; now no directional lights. I just nee the directional lights to work to pass inspection and get my car registered.
When I activate the directional switch on the steering column the only bulb that lights is at the bottom of the speedo. Headlights seem to work fine including high and low beam, though they are too high.
If you have the orange cover Bentley Manual it has the same wiring diagram and a diagram of the relays and where they go. If you look at the 1972 wiring diagram you will see the H3 relay; this is the buzzer. J2 is the flasher relay. The blue wire coming from the 49a terminal becomes the black-green-white wire going to the signal switch. This then feeds power to the black-white and black-green wires for the directional lights. J relay is for the high-low beam headlights.
The only other thing that doesn't work is the fresh air blower and need to figure out how to shut off the hot air coming from the heat exchangers. The levers on the tunnel are in the position for restricting the hot air but some still gets in.
I did get a new battery since the German battery the car came with was from 2009 and when tested wouldn't hold a charge anymore.

Volks Wagen · Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: headlights and blinkers


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