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AircooledHome Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2015 Posts: 273 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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hello-
I am trying to put my bearings back onto the axle ends and install the hub, washer and locking nut, but I have 1 piece left over.. It is a spring looking ring.. I am not sure where it goes and my brother and I couldn't find it in the manual at all..
Is it the "sealing ring?"
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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This is the ring:
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Brake drum specifications |
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Pinetops wrote: |
So does this mean you should or shouldn't have them turned? |
Yes
Permissible turned diameter
Front and rear is 251.20 mm so you can cut up to 1.20 mm.
If it cannot be cleaned up by 251.50 it is scrap metal.
Good Luck
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Pinetops Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Thanks, I kept seeing them as the same figures but I see now. _________________ "A rolling bus gathers no rust." |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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ThisMetalMess wrote: |
hello-
I am trying to put my bearings back onto the axle ends and install the hub, washer and locking nut, but I have 1 piece left over.. It is a spring looking ring.. I am not sure where it goes and my brother and I couldn't find it in the manual at all..
Is it the "sealing ring?"
What you have in your hand is #8 oring in the picture above. It goes on the rear axle on the early buses not the front. 68-79 does not use that O-ring.
Are you talking about #23 C-clip that holds the rear inner bearing in?
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benandmj Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2012 Posts: 550 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Craving an update here! _________________ 85 Westfalia Weekender
91 Syncro Westy |
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1961bluebug Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2002 Posts: 1137 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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wow what a find:-) If the bus stayed in my climate outside for such a long time..nothing would be left!!! _________________
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1961 Deluxe beetle, 1971 type 181, 1968 T2a Baywindow, 1973 Type 147 "Swiss Fridolin"(sold), 1966 Deluxe sedan (sold), 1983 "Silver Bug" edition (sold), 1961 beetle (sold) |
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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benandmj wrote: |
Craving an update here! |
Not too much to update as ive recently gotten back from traveling and have loww funds.
I guess a couple of things... I took the engine out and stripped all the time and things off and repainted the tins. It's all sitting in the bus waiting for my attention. My brother bought me a front window seal and chrome kit for my birthday because the front seal leaks and I'll do that soon.
I also found a bus I might buy for parts and possibly for the metal panel across from the slider door which needs to be cut out and rewelded from a donor bus. So I've been thinking about that as well.
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1967250s Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Might want to reconsider cutting up a complete Bus, especially an early Bay Deluxe. There are some ads up parting busses in the classifieds, lots in CA,if you are bent on OG metal. You could probably sell the red one easy after a little work and cleaning. Actually, with some careful hammer and dolly work, and some shrinking, you could probably get yours pretty close to the original shape. Look for a book called "The Key to Metal Bumping". I found it online. Always nice when you don't have to cut up a non rusty bus, especially if you are a beginner... _________________ '72 Elm Green Deluxe |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22448 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Or even not cut up your blue bus. That spot looks like it can be pulled, pounded and lightly filled - saving from cutting og metal on your ride. _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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1967250s wrote: |
Might want to reconsider cutting up a complete Bus, especially an early Bay Deluxe. There are some ads up parting busses in the classifieds, lots in CA,if you are bent on OG metal. You could probably sell the red one easy after a little work and cleaning. Actually, with some careful hammer and dolly work, and some shrinking, you could probably get yours pretty close to the original shape. Look for a book called "The Key to Metal Bumping". I found it online. Always nice when you don't have to cut up a non rusty bus, especially if you are a beginner... |
None of my pics give justice to anything. No, my bus is not possibly repairable without cutting and welding. I also am not new to metal work. There are creases that cannot be pulled back.
No, this donar bus is not rust free. It's so damn rusty im considering leaving it to Melt into the ground. It's not restorable unless you are insane, definitely not worth it for a bay. And the engine is shot, 100%
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:28 am Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Finally put my engine back together
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:11 am Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Quick update.
I finished assembling my engine and am getting everything all sorted out. I replaced all the fuel line, and mustache bar mounts and gaskets and cleaned everything out. I bolted it in tonight with my brothers help and tomorrow I will finish snuggling it up. I bought oil and am excited to do another oil change, and get the electrical setup and test the rebuilt carb and see how the engine runs with new components. I'll have my friend come over and walk me through the valve adjustments and then get it running again!
After that i have to replace the axle boots and bleed the brakes and new tires are ordered into the local America's Tires shop.
After that maybe I can finally drive it!?
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Hello-
I can't seem to get my engine running.. It took us 2 hours to get it running after an oil change and minor tinkering with gravity fed gas and i cannot seem, after rebuilding the carb and doing lots of other work, to get it started. I have gotten the timing correct, firing order correct, checked for spark, and am giving it both starter fluid and gas into the float and also have primed the gas pump which appears to be working.. The most I can get is what seems to be maybe 1 or 2 combustions from cylinders and then it dies.
Where do I start?
Bad coil? Bad spark plugs? |
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paulsvwbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Well you need compression, spark and fuel to fire plus a timed engine. You say you check for spark-at the plugs? with a spark tester? Make sure you check for spark at least on a cylinder on each bank. Do you have close to 12 volts at the coil positive side? This comes from the ignition switch, if not start there. If ok then make sure you're getting fuel. Is you float adjusted correctly? You should have done this when the carb was out, that way you could pull the throttle lever to see if fuel is getting sprayed down the carb. And double check your firing order. 1,4,3,2 |
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Busstom Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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ThisMetalMess wrote: |
I can't seem to get my engine running.. It took us 2 hours to get it running after an oil change and minor tinkering with gravity fed gas and i cannot seem, after rebuilding the carb and doing lots of other work, to get it started. I have gotten the timing correct, firing order... |
So was it ever running or was it never running? You said it took you two hours to get it running....do you mean it wont start now after your carb work and whatever else? If so, then look at your carb work and whatever else if you had it running already.
Did you static time it with a test lamp? How are you certain about your timing and firing order? Because you actually had it running already? That's what's not clear. |
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:14 am Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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paulsvwbug wrote: |
Well you need compression, spark and fuel to fire plus a timed engine. You say you check for spark-at the plugs? with a spark tester? Make sure you check for spark at least on a cylinder on each bank. Do you have close to 12 volts at the coil positive side? This comes from the ignition switch, if not start there. If ok then make sure you're getting fuel. Is you float adjusted correctly? You should have done this when the carb was out, that way you could pull the throttle lever to see if fuel is getting sprayed down the carb. And double check your firing order. 1,4,3,2 |
I must have compression because if ran before and I didn't pull the heads apart. I have spark at all plugs and I'm introducing fuel manually into the float and also gravity fed into the carb so it should have gas I will pull the carb off today and make sure. Firing order is correct. I will also check the coil but I tried 2 and neither helped. |
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:14 am Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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paulsvwbug wrote: |
Well you need compression, spark and fuel to fire plus a timed engine. You say you check for spark-at the plugs? with a spark tester? Make sure you check for spark at least on a cylinder on each bank. Do you have close to 12 volts at the coil positive side? This comes from the ignition switch, if not start there. If ok then make sure you're getting fuel. Is you float adjusted correctly? You should have done this when the carb was out, that way you could pull the throttle lever to see if fuel is getting sprayed down the carb. And double check your firing order. 1,4,3,2 |
I must have compression because if ran before and I didn't pull the heads apart. I have spark at all plugs and I'm introducing fuel manually into the float and also gravity fed into the carb so it should have gas I will pull the carb off today and make sure. Firing order is correct. I will also check the coil but I tried 2 and neither helped. |
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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Still can't get it running. So I dealt with this today instead of frustration.
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AircooledHome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 Bus Rescue n Survivor Restore |
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I have a feeling this is going to be awesome! New tires are arriving tomorrow. |
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