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msmittyu
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 Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:00 pm Post subject: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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How new of a model transmission can I put in my 1973 super beetle
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TinCanFab
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vwracerdave
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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A IRS from 69-72 will work but you will have to use the nose cone off your 73. It is a very simple swap and only requires a gasket or sealing the nosecone with RTV.
If you use a 69-70 IRS you will also have to change the pressure plate, or add the centering ring to your 73 pressure plate.
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msmittyu
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:26 am Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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| msmittyu wrote: |
How new of a model transmission can I put in my 1973 super beetle
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Can I use other model cars transmission for my 1973 super beetle |
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Casting Timmy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:34 am Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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The internals are better on the late irs boxes. I would make sure it has the nose cone you need and stick with the single side cover boxes.
I would suggest turning the out drive and watching the input shaft to figure out the ring and pinion in it. This is assuming you like how it drives right now. |
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vwracerdave
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:53 am Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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| msmittyu wrote: |
| Can I use other model cars transmission for my 1973 super beetle |
Any IRS transaxle from a regular Beetle, Ghia, Thing, or Type III will fit into your Super Beetle. You might have to change the nose cone and you might have to change your pressure plate. The type III transaxle you will have to drill the mounting holes in the bell housing area but that is just 4 holes with a hand drill. The Thing transaxle you will also have to change the CV flanges as they are a larger CV joint on the Thing. The Single side cover Thing and Type III transaxle may have lower gearing in them then a Bug did.
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mark tucker
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:03 am Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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| type 3 has no bell housing holes?? how did they keep the engine from falling out?? |
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vugbug68
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:14 am Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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Late type 3's are rear mounted, the hanger bolts to the case hence the "universal case" they don't have frame horns like a bug does
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jsturtlebuggy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:54 am Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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IRS type III transaxles do have the holes in the bell housing for rear trans mount. They have aluminum plugs in them that are easily knock out if it needed to be use where rear mounts are required.
One other thing pertaining to type III trans, not all the hockey sticks have a dimple hole in the top for the coupler screw, as like a type II the set screw is on the bottom.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: transmisssions for a 1973 super Beetle |
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They will all fit but the 73 maybe 72 also have a taller top gear. It will drop your RPM's which is nice for highway cruising, with less noise.
The later cars had more HP so I guess they figured you did not need the extra gearing to get 4 fat guys up a hill, the HP will do it???
I also heard the older trannies have gears with less teeth, which makes them stronger?? For sure i am not a tranny expert but that is what I read.
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