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nengster Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2012 Posts: 42 Location: Sun Valley ca 91352
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:33 am Post subject: Zwitter starter button location |
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Hello Friend
I having a problem on my 53 zwitter. Cause i need to know a position to install a button on dash. I really don't know a point that i need to make a hole . If there anyone can help me with a dash and dimension for screw it .
and other thing is .Zwitter need a key to turn on and press on button for start or just dont need a key at all.....????
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bwaz Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1780
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:39 am Post subject: Re: zwitter start button |
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why do you need the know the hole position, isn't there one there?
For the key, turn the key on, push the button to start the starter.
No key on, no ignition.
Starter will crank, but no power to coil/distributor. |
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nengster Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2012 Posts: 42 Location: Sun Valley ca 91352
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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uhmm my dash doesn't had a hole for a push start button. BTW I got a pictures already . Thanks |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69807 Location: Phoenix Metro
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bwaz Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1780
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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nengster wrote: |
uhmm my dash doesn't had a hole for a push start button. BTW I got a pictures already . Thanks |
No holes? I'd be looking for the repair where it used to be, or wondering if it was a car that originally had one? |
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D. Haviland Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 536 Location: Burlington, Vermont
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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What's the ashtray look like? |
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sotos Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2014 Posts: 71
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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In my June 1953 oval a previous owner had fitted a larger diameter aftermarket starter button so he had to make the starter button hole larger to fit the new one.
I plan to cover the hole with fresh metal and then reopen it in the original diameter and exact position.
If someone can measure accurately the diameter of the starter button hole and the distances between A to B and A to C the center and eventually the position of the hole can be relocated.
A :Center of the starter button
B and C :Left edge of the speaker grill holes
(Photo from a zwitter)
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Oval53 (June)
Beetle 1.3 1966
New beetle 1.6 2003 |
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Jdt1976 Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2014 Posts: 25 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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I can take measurements of my RHD Feb Zwitter. Sure it would be a mirror image of a LHD dash?
My body is ready for paint but I first need to double check all the holes in the dash. Will sart a new thread with questions. |
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sotos Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2014 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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Probably the position of the starter button on the LHD is symmetrical to the RHD but even if it isn't it would be useful to know that too !
With your measurements we just need a confirmation with the measurements of an LHD to see if they are the same.
I can measure my oval since the starter button hole is there, only bigger, but it would be more accurate if the original starter button is in position.
For more accurate measurements It would be best if the speedometer trim is not in place. _________________ http://www.komenda-porsche-designer.at/
Oval53 (June)
Beetle 1.3 1966
New beetle 1.6 2003 |
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Zwitter Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2003 Posts: 212 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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Curious in wonder, looking at the photo of the Zwitter dash, what is that Aluminum button above the center of the speaker grill opening? |
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Jdt1976 Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2014 Posts: 25 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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I measured my RHD's dash. A-C and A-B will be slightly different but not by much.
I thought it would be more accurate if measured from different directions from the starter button's hole.
A-B: 348 millimeters.
Was measuring above A (the reinforcing support to the front window pillar) to A: 61,5 millimeters.
Then the nearest point of the top hinge hole to A: 167 millimeters.
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56reddy Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2005 Posts: 774
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Zwitter start button |
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Zwitter wrote: |
Curious in wonder, looking at the photo of the Zwitter dash, what is that Aluminum button above the center of the speaker grill opening? |
It's a map light. _________________ New Vintage Specialist.
1974 ghia convertible
1981 Vanagon Westfalia
Making VW’s Fun Again.(MVFA) |
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sotos Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2014 Posts: 71
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter starter button location |
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Thanks for the measurements Jdt1976.
We need the difference ,even small, between A to B AND A to C to pinpoint the position of the starter button a soft ruler would be more accurate for that ,also should be measured from the OUTER edge of the oval shaped speaker grill hole to the EXACT center of the starter button if the starter button is in place or if you draw the center of the starter button hole on a piece of paper behind the hole.
With the other side of your caliper you can measure the diameter of the starter button hole (the most important measurement for my case).
With the two reference points you added (the reinforcing support of the front window pillar and right door hinge screw) and the above I think we have all we need. _________________ http://www.komenda-porsche-designer.at/
Oval53 (June)
Beetle 1.3 1966
New beetle 1.6 2003 |
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Capriacci Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2011 Posts: 298 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Zwitter starter button location |
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Important notes:
- look that the speedometer is installed;
- for the first pics, the starter button is installed, too;
- so, the rule was slightly arched, touching the starter button, the trim ring of the speedometer and near the speaker grill hole:
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sotos Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2014 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter starter button location |
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Perfect,thanks Capriacci really appreciated .
These measurements will be useful in many cases where a larger starter button or gauge meter was fitted in that place.
It may take a while until I do the repair to my car and post some photos but the basic idea is to use a thin wire bend at point A and the sides A to B and A to C of the wire at the lengths kindly supplied by Capriacci and then hook the two edges of the wire to points B and C respectively,eventually point A of the wire will saw the center of the starter button \ hole.
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Oval53 (June)
Beetle 1.3 1966
New beetle 1.6 2003 |
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v6-star Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2006 Posts: 193 Location: Neuenhaus/Deutschland
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Zwitter starter button location |
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bruiserbabie Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Zwitter starter button location |
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Does anyone know how big the Heater Channel hole is on a Zwitter and a few measurments on where its centered? I just replaced my heater channels and they were rotted out before hand so I dont know the measurments. I also used different ones then the ones in this picture. Opps. Thanks in advance.....
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