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epowell
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Hi Guys...
I am not sure if this is allowed here because these are fotos of Suzuki Maruthis not VWs... but I was so amazed while recently in India that these little Suzukis seem to be exactly like Vanagons, except they are smaller! And in India there are absolutely NO Vanagons or VWs, that I fell in love with the next best thing 
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:32 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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It might be tough to camp in one of those, like the similar-sized Daihatsu.
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narendra.vw
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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epowell
Welcome back.
These vans are 2/3rd of Vanagon in size. Engine(800 cc) four speed MT mid mounted with the power to the rear wheel.
-They are basically for City utility. It can easily transport 7 persons in comfort.
-They are bread & butter for many taxis. They have proven their reliability in all direction of India.
-Yes, Japanese took inspiration from VW, as usual they make it smaller.
-They have a good resale value.  |
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epowell
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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| narendra.vw wrote: |
epowell
Welcome back.
-Yes, Japanese took inspiration from VW, as usual they make it smaller.
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yes it is astonishing, the similarity... and moreover, the new versions went in exactly the same direction as T3 > T4 with the development of the BIG NOSE (which I don't like).
is it actually proven that the Japanese took their inspiration directly from T3s and T4s? ...or is this just the obvious assumptions.
PS- funny to say "welcome back" when in fact that whole time I was just a few hours train from you! hahaha
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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| Thank you for reminding me to appreciate my standard of living. I swear some of those pictures were taken in Oakland. |
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narendra.vw
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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| narendra.vw wrote: |
epowell
PS- funny to say "welcome back" when in fact that whole time I was just a few hours train from you! hahaha |
I was expecting you. It would have been great if you had made it.
Welcome is for the forum after a long break.
Wasted youth,
All pictures are from India. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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I know nothing of the vehicle, but I enjoyed the pictures. 
Thanks!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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I liked the barefoot guys in the Machine shop.
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epowell
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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I liked the barefoot guys in the Machine shop.
Stacy |
yeah the coolest thing over there is that all these machine shops are just there open to the street - you can just poke your nose in and watch everything -- and they are all so friendly, you can hang and chat for hours
you're never lonely in India.
BTW most of their machining machines are from Denmark. Big big old things...
They were working mostly one old 6 cylinder diesels for buses and small trucks - but they said business is down because mostly people want to buy newer trucks these days.
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epowell
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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| Jennepher wrote: |
| You are correct, non-VW pictures are deleted from the Gallery. Feel free to host the photos elsewhere and edit your post with the new links. |
No problem, sorry to cause a hassle.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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Those things are monster trucks compared to the micro vans that actually started that segment 50 years ago. There was once a classification just for those autos in Japan that limited the engine to 360cc. I view those rigs as standard evolution that preceded VW's influence by years. I'll bet a donut VW copied the far east for the T4 look.
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epowell
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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| hitest wrote: |
| Those things are monster trucks compared to the micro vans that actually started that segment 50 years ago. There was once a classification just for those autos in Japan that limited the engine to 360cc. I view those rigs as standard evolution that preceded VW's influence by years. I'll bet a donut VW copied the far east for the T4 look. |
any links to fotos of what you are referring to?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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| epowell wrote: |
| hitest wrote: |
| Those things are monster trucks compared to the micro vans that actually started that segment 50 years ago. There was once a classification just for those autos in Japan that limited the engine to 360cc. I view those rigs as standard evolution that preceded VW's influence by years. I'll bet a donut VW copied the far east for the T4 look. |
any links to fotos of what you are referring to? |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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So it seems in fact it might have been the Germans who got inspired by the Japanese to shift from the round Bay Window design to the boxy Vanagon design. In fact... looking at this article it become obvious -
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Indian (almost) Vanagon? |
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I doubt the Germans "copied" anything - when the Vanagon came out the Golf was already in production and the Jetta was launched the same year. All of them share the same design lines - square angles, straight lines box-like volumes. The 80's were coming and everybody in the industry embraced the square and boxy automotive design, including Volkswagen.
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