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TheLadyBug
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:24 am Post subject: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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Can anyone chime in? Looking to get the correct reflectors/ballasts and lenses.
The adjustment screws should be located at 5 and 7 o'clock on the rings, I'm fairly sure.
I'm looking to find out what codes are correct for 54 headlights.
What are the lenses to look like, and what codes? Markings?
Anything else of mention? Hella stamping or an arrow on the rings?
Pictures are much appreciated!
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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Are you looking for bulb and reflector or sealed beam units?
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TheLadyBug
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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| splitjunkie wrote: |
| Are you looking for bulb and reflector or sealed beam units? |
I don't know?! Really. School me. What should it be?
Reflector looks cooler but I'm after what is correct.
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TheLadyBug
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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Thanks for the link. That greatly helps as far as lenses and rivets/stamp. I guess with my car I could do either as its early 54.
So as far as codes... Any insight as to how they were coded?
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TheLadyBug
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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Thanks Don.
Were the headlights always Hella?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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| TheLadyBug wrote: |
Thanks Don.
Were the headlights always Hella? |
I believe some were bosch as well but I could be wrong
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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These are March '54 sealed beam headlights. M12 date code.
A month too new for your car. 
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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^^^ To be clear (get it?) on the above buckets:
Those have the wrong lenses but are fairly nice otherwise for a hard to find part |
The right one is actually correct. I just couldn't get a good picture of the oval in the center of the glass. The left one is definitely incorrect but a fairly early version (not 60's I believe)
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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Those are really nice, Chris. 
So what am I missing here... Why is the lens wrong on the left? The numbers on the glass?
Also, are those retaining clips relatively easy to find?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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They have this oval in the center of the glass. Mine has the VW emblem at the bottom like this one but they also made them without it apparently.
I think someone is making repros of the clips.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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| EverettB wrote: |
^^^ To be clear (get it?) on the above buckets:
Those have the wrong lenses but are fairly nice otherwise for a hard to find part |
The right one is actually correct. I just couldn't get a good picture of the oval in the center of the glass. The left one is definitely incorrect but a fairly early version (not 60's I believe) |
Ooops! Yes, I see that now. I should have blown the photo up full size.
To throw out some more info, the 53-early 54 lenses are also different than 54-55 but it's just a small logo difference so most people wouldn't know.
Both have the little Oval in the center
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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Thanks for all the help. 
So if I'm correct... The actual bucket itself doesn't have anything special about it for the early years except the code and the adjustments at 5/7.
The glass should have the oval in the middle, perhaps with or without the logo. Being feb/54 I can get away with 53 or 54 things as the change could have occurred around the time my car was produced.
The rings should be 2 rivet with no logo.
Am I on the right track?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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| TheLadyBug wrote: |
Thanks for all the help.
So if I'm correct... The actual bucket itself doesn't have anything special about it for the early years except the code and the adjustments at 5/7.
The glass should have the oval in the middle, perhaps with or without the logo. Being feb/54 I can get away with 53 or 54 things as the change could have occurred around the time my car was produced.
The rings should be 2 rivet with no logo.
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Almost. You need the single rivit rings with the Hella logo. The ones Rare Air has are correct buckets.
These are my original Jan '54. Late '53 dated.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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| TheLadyBug wrote: |
Thanks for all the help.
So if I'm correct... The actual bucket itself doesn't have anything special about it for the early years except the code and the adjustments at 5/7.
The glass should have the oval in the middle, perhaps with or without the logo. Being feb/54 I can get away with 53 or 54 things as the change could have occurred around the time my car was produced.
The rings should be 2 rivet with no logo.
Am I on the right track? |
Almost. You need the single rivit rings with the Hella logo. The ones Rare Air has are correct buckets.
These are my original Jan '54. Late '53 dated.
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Thanks Joe. You've showed me that pic before and I couldn't find it.
Ok. The rings - I need to look at mine more closely.
So is there no park bulb in these early buckets? Or what is that bracket in there for? Or is it that no one has put the park bulb in?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights for 54 - what's correct? |
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Holy shit, my rings are correct! I'm floored. Single rivet with hella logo.
Ok. I'm making head way here.
Any idea who is making correct repro glass?
Or those retaining clips?
Thanks to all who have offered me parts thus far... I have some decisions to make.
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