Kdf engine (Lithuania)

[Sobakis]

Hello everyone.

I can't say that we found this engine, becouse everyone form LT beetle club know about this engine. But no one looked at this engine. When we taked in our garage we saw that it is old one Kdf engine. Can you recognize what engine it is? I think it' kubelwagen, and the number on bloack is ocrrect but something is not good becouse teh numbers are not original. Inside we have some Lithuania/russian style work . We can't recognize fuel pump too. Please help us

[DDub]

The main bearings appear to be bronze, are they?

[Sobakis]

[janerick3]

It looks like the correct engine number is 7-043147, which identifies this as late 1943 production, consistent with the casting dates (21 July and 02 September 1943) on the case.

I'm wondering if this short block has ever been apart in its 72 years, given the unusual parts found inside and the lack of rebuild stamps on the case. Given wartime materiel shortages, the oddball parts may not be the results of Soviet ingenuity.

The bottom half of the fuel pump dates from around 1955--I'm not sure of the top half, it may not be VW.
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Jan K.

[mikeandkirsti]

The engine number has been ground off and restamped, however the original star at the end remains. The original number would have a star on the other end too, then a line between 7 and O, also a round check stamp would be present, usually stamped above the line. Also the stamps used are not original VW stamps.

What probably happened is the original engine of the Schwimmwagen having had the number 7-043147 was replaced by another KdF block from another Schwimmer or Kübelwagen and restamped with the original engine number. Very common practice. This block might have come from a 1943 Schwimmwagen as it has threads for the studs to hold the engine tin at the bottom.

In the Soviet Union the vehicle was registered with the engine number and if the the engine failed, the new engine had to carry the same number. Vehicles were owned by the Soviet state as there was no private ownership but a private person would get a registration certificate for the vehicle and de facto could sell it.

[Undis]

[Sobakis]

What a week Today i found another "oldie". Number on engine are not original on same problem. Becaouse engine was mounted in oval. So someone correct engine number and it original oval engine number.
The car where engine was

Engine i Think it's 1944 Kubelwagen engine

So today we have 2 oldies and we think we will restorate it

One more question. This alternator original or not? And what year? I can't found any information about this

[Sobakis]

Forgot one photo

[pastellgreen]

Your generator is a correct one. 130 W 2600 AL 15
If you find a datacode like "10F" for exanmple, you can tell the date.

[splitjunkie]

The generator backing plate is much later. Late '49 or later.
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Chris

You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld

[blood]

Thanks for the post! your 21-7-43 engine is 8 days older than a kubelwagen block I am currently sourcing parts for a rebuild to replace the 36hp one that is in my 44 type 82. I do have say the numbers do not look original. they are much clearer than the zundfolge wording just under them. But that case is very period correct in my opinion.
Can anyone give me a date on when the cases received the upper perimeter bolts? You can see in the 2-9-44 case that they are present then but not on the first case (or on mine). Also are the pushrod tube openings in the first case not countersunk but flat? looks like it has rubber pushrod seals stuck to the side of the case. does the later case you have also have flat openings?
thanks and best wishes on your project.
David

[virtanen]

[splitjunkie]

thanks for the correction. I knew it was somewhere in the late 40's but didn't have time to look it up in PR.
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Chris

You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld

[janerick3]

It looks like there is a barely readable "9Z" (Sep 1944) directly above the "2600" stamp on the generator housing...
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Jan K.