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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:32 pm    Post subject: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car ? Reply with quote

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Hey guys,

Hope the community can help me. I not sure from which car it is. It prototyp or was it a special part from vdo of the IAA... Thanks for any idea!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Unkouwn Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

What does it say in the very center?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Unkouwn Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
What does it say in the very center?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Unkouwn Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Probably for a tractor.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Unkouwn Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

56reddy wrote:
Probably for a tractor.


that would be a pretty quick tractor Smile 200km/h speedo
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Fast Porsche tractor. !
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

real early 924?

any part numbers at all?

might want to try over in the Porsche section of thesamba
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

obieoberstar wrote:
real early 924?

any part numbers at all?

might want to try over in the Porsche section of thesamba


way too old for a 924. this is 60s stuff, i have sat in quite a few 60s cars, and i don't recognize it. tried to find it online, but nothing so far
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

that's a mechanical tach right? that and it only reading to 5500 rpm makes me think it's from the 50s
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

The cable for the heat gauge looks to be quite long.
So a rear engine car?

The screw terminals on the lights are quite in a 50s style as well.
Shouldn´t there be some dates on the tacho and speedo housings?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

That's a water temp gauge. Most likely for for Studebaker-Porsche Type 542 with rear mounted V6 engine. Looks like that gauge head would fit in the dash.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

it does look a lot like it would fit there! I'd say the gauge says "OEL ºC", so it could be the air-cooled version
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

So how rare is the type 542?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Slow 1200 wrote:
it does look a lot like it would fit there! I'd say the gauge says "OEL ºC", so it could be the air-cooled version
Dho! I meant to type oil temp after I did the F* to C* conversion. Of course, the range for water would be lower. More info here:
https://dedeporsche.com/2012/11/03/porsches-secret...-type-542/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Jacks wrote:
. Most likely for for Studebaker-Porsche Type 542 with rear mounted V6 engine.
The dash opening is too rounded at the top to accept this gauge package.
Another reason it can't be for the Stude prototype is that those gauges are metric. Porsche would never be so stupid as to build a prototype for an American car co without using MPH and ºF.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Minor dash shape changes are commonplace on prototypes, and these cars were tested in Europe before delivery to the US. That may explain why there exist "metric" gauges that were left over after conversion.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

For only 4 prototypes and an American customer, they would have NEVER wasted their time making metric gauges.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Perhaps, but TUV laws are very strict. As an example, tourist delivery 356's destined for US were required to have German heater systems, as opposed to the US style, as early as 1962 before they could be driven on German roads. Very Happy
Can you offer another application for these odd gauges?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Again, for an American prototype, they would not concern themselves with TuV regulations.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: Unknown Speedo and Tachometer from VDO Prototyp/Race car Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
Again, for an American prototype, they would not concern themselves with TuV regulations.


Do you have any documentation to back that up? If not, then it is just your opinion.

I think it is very likely that they would have to have met TuV regulations if they were going to be driven on any public roads and they would have tested them extensively before sending them to the states. I have no documentation to back that up either so it is just my opinion.
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