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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:48 am    Post subject: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

I have 2 Things. One is a 73 and the other is a 74. The number plates and the stamp on the tunnel match for both of them. What I don't know if the engines are from the same years as the cars.
The engine codes are as follows: AH 219421 and AM 026177

I tried to look up on the technical side, but they don't mention the 181.

Any help is appreciated.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

It's my understanding that the AM engine were original to the US things
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

Thank you for the engine codes list. This is very helpful. I am going to contact VW museum and see if they can tell me what year is the engine from. I am guessing that they put the same engines in the 73 & 74.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

The 181 had multiple different engines over the years (H1, AF, AG, AL, AM).
• 1970 civilian and military models had the H1 1500cc single port engine with 30pict2 carburetors: 44hp.
• 1971 civilian models used AG engines, which were low compression ratio 1600cc twin port engines with 31pict3 carburetors: 44hp. 1971 military models used the H1 1500cc engine until February 1971, when they started using AG engines.
• 1972 civilian and military models used AG engines.
• 1973 models had AG, AL, and AM engines simultaneously. The AL and AM engines were normal compression ratio 1600cc twin port engines with 34pict3 carburetors: 48hp. AM was used for the US market (emissions) while the AL was used everywhere else.
• 1974 models had AF, AG, AL, and AM engines. The AF engine was a low compression 1600 twin port with a 34pict3 carburetor: 46hp.
• 1975 and 1976 had AF, AG, and AL.
• 1977 and 1978 had AF and AL.
• 1979-1982 only lists AF.

The factory data I have puts your AM engine between the 7th of January of 1974 (AM 0 016 001) and the 30th of September 1974 (AM 0 029 046).

Your AH engine is from a beetle between 1st August 1973 (AH 0 101 889) and 31 December 1973 (AH 0 294 654).

Hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:50 am    Post subject: Re: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

This is great information. Thank you so much for your help. I am in the process of getting the 73 ready for sale and I want to provide the future owner with as much information as I can.
It appears that someone spent a lot of money on that car but they did take some inexpensive shortcuts. I never understood how someone can spend $17k on a project getting all new parts, yet they skimp on a simple $6 item.

Hoping to have the 73 ready soon...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

This thread made me check my engine code. To my surprise the engine code is AB886624. I knew it wasn't an original engine but when I looked it up it says it's a 1300. Is there a way to tell if it really is a 1300 or machined to 1600?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Engine Codes for Thing Reply with quote

1300cc engine cases don't require machining to be made into 1600cc engines. The heads are a different story.
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