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sled Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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they do not have a step, that was just an illusion by the carbon build up to the sealing surface. _________________ drive your split. |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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thats a relief
i got nervous. it did look like it in the first pics.
i want 8.5 or 9.0 compression, and it looks like getting the heads fly cut to achieve that. i'm taking my time in figuring this one out. i invested in the heads for my utmost power (and budget) and not doing the compression in my build was "my bad"
this will be my 3rd time in and i heard "third time is the charm"
thanks for all the help and advice, everybody! _________________ Youtube@vw moses
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62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
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63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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sent the heads to get fly cut(reduce cc's from 55cc to 45cc) should raise my compression to 9.1
should feel a big boost in power. i've never had the right compression in three years since my modifications to this mtr.
i got a good opportunity to put in 1.25 rockers that will put me at 482.0 range (presently @424 lift) not sure if more lift would help me in the low- i think in the high rpm. range it will?
but not looking to go more than 5000 rpm's(stock crank and rods un balanced) rotating assembly.
thats the plan, but a lot to consider, i only want to do the rocker arm geometry done right to get push rods right.
the stuff i've been tossing around in bed at night thinking about. _________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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porkchop-rob Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2015 Posts: 440
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:15 am Post subject: Re: low power |
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vw moses wrote: |
sent the heads to get fly cut(reduce cc's from 55cc to 45cc) should raise my compression to 9.1
should feel a big boost in power. i've never had the right compression in three years since my modifications to this mtr.
i got a good opportunity to put in 1.25 rockers that will put me at 482.0 range (presently @424 lift) not sure if more lift would help me in the low- i think in the high rpm. range it will?
but not looking to go more than 5000 rpm's(stock crank and rods un balanced) rotating assembly.
thats the plan, but a lot to consider, i only want to do the rocker arm geometry done right to get push rods right.
the stuff i've been tossing around in bed at night thinking about. |
Any update? _________________ 1965 Beetle
1968 Beetle Baja (Son's First Car)
1976 Bus with Subaru (Wife's Riviera Camper) |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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i sent the heads to be fly cut. still waiting for them to be finished(30 days now)
there was a problem with their mill machine, but i totally trust them to get em done.
not much longer i'll post some pics when they get back.
thanks mike. _________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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pork chop rob you brought me luck.
i got my tracking # just now and should receive them this thursday
_________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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got the heads back today
fly-cut from 55cc to 45cc
_________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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jpaull Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 3456 Location: Paradise, Ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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Cool Mike!!!! Get that bad boy back on the road! Should have some good power now _________________ [email protected] MPH 1/4 Mile & 8.1 @ 83.7MPH in 1/8 Mile with Mild Type 1 VW Mag Case 2234cc commuter engine in stock weight bug w/only .491 total lift(CB2292 Cam), 42x37 heads, 48idf's, Street tires, Belt on, Mufflers, Pump gas, video of the run here: https://youtu.be/M3SPqMOKAOg
Transmission by MCMScott:
Rhino case, Klinkenberg 4.12, Superdiff, 002 mainshaft with 091 first idler. Weddle 1.48 Third & 1.14 Fourth. |
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midtravelmidengine Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2009 Posts: 861 Location: Riverside, Ca
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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Looking at those....pictures...are really. ...making .... me....twitchy....hahaha
Those intake valves are just begging to be unshrouded lol
You will definitely be happy with the compression bump. Keep deck between .040 and .050... _________________
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And I know you don't know because if you did you would know the reason for my knowing you didn't. |
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I just wasn't sure if I should recommend the 1/3 race cam, the 1/2 race cam, or the 5/8 race cam instead...guess it depends on how much of the race he wants to lead???
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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yup and a little work around the zost too |
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porkchop-rob Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2015 Posts: 440
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:53 am Post subject: Re: low power |
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Glad I could throw some luck your way! Glad you got them back! _________________ 1965 Beetle
1968 Beetle Baja (Son's First Car)
1976 Bus with Subaru (Wife's Riviera Camper) |
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stanovich Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2013 Posts: 191 Location: central coast calif
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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I would put it back together and run it, see how it is changed, then if you feel like you want more put the 1.25 rockers on. I was taught, make a change and test one thing at a time, make notes for all. very nice good luck |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:59 am Post subject: Re: low power |
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i've been off line because of the flooding here,LA.
but been busy cleaning the heads. i'll post some pics soon. _________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:16 am Post subject: Re: low power |
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_________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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heads on!
some port porn
putting springs back
using .030 shim
eliminating inner spring
new nuts and washers
_________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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heres where i'm at now.
now i just need to order my new push rods
lots of more detail work to do so will be busy, i'll update as time goes by. _________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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push rods came in today
Super duty alm. type.
now to clean them and the rocker assembly's.
then install!
_________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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hobbybob517 Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2011 Posts: 1194 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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Nice job,
Makes me want to pull my heads and get them cut.
Can't wait to hear if it does the trick. _________________ THE BUILD http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php
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3 million rpm? Well there's your problem! No wonder it blew up! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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got em in, now to get the mtr. back in.
be busy this weekend!
_________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: low power |
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ok got it all back together
"BIG DIFFERENCE"
I"m so impressed with the whole new power, it is a big improvement over than the way it ran.
i could see how sluggish the mtr. was before (w/lo comp).
great change, total blast going to cheveron to fill-up w/fresh super premium!
I'd like to thank everyone for their imput.
Special shout out to John@aircooled for the machine work & Push rods.
the bumper's going back on(tomorrow) _________________ Youtube@vw moses
73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet! |
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