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ratrodtrike Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2016 Posts: 9 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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Yes that will be checked and other things. All advice is good advice the only difference is whether we use it or not so keep it coming. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26781 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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Main bearings in these are tricky.
Some engines you could say replacing bearings is always a good idea, but not these.
Where in colorado are you? |
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ratrodtrike Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2016 Posts: 9 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 7:14 am Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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These I had to replace the rear main went out and emptied the oil. Destroyed two bearings. I'm in Greality. Work in Windsor at O-I |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26781 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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I would not mind lending a hand, but You are almost as close to mofoco as you are to me. oh well.
Painters grinding in denver has a good reputation with cases and line bore. |
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ratrodtrike Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2016 Posts: 9 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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Ok so I did not know the main bearings are not stamped with the line bore or thrust. Turns out my case was line bored .040 and the thrust was cut .040. I got the right bearings and reassembled the engine. It runs really really good! Wheelies all day in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears. Tons of fun! That is until I got home and oil was pouring from the rear main, new seal and O-ring and the end play was .003. Any ideas? Does anybody make a sleeve or something for the flywheel? There was a slight groove cut in the flywheel where the oil seal rides I'm thinking that's gotta be the problem. |
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rugblaster Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2016 Posts: 1170 Location: San Angelo, Texas
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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I hope you torqued the flywheel gland nut with all you could put on it. _________________ '69 Karmy, '69 Camper, Meyers clone, '65 drag bug, 10.78 @ 128 (sold it) '51 Dodge farm truck,
'09 MB E350 '18 MB E400, '65 Plymouth Valiant convertible and a '19 Ford F250 King Ranch (nicer, but dirty, farm truck)
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Teeroy Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2003 Posts: 3685 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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You can try and move the seal so it doesn't hit the groove, either bottom it in the case or leave it flush with the back, depending on how it is set now. Also take some emory paper and polish the seal surface of flywheel and give it a couple coats of DFL (let it dry all the way before you reinstall). Grease seal lip as well. _________________ Pres. Rivercity VW Club www.rcvwclub.org
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luvthemvws Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2012 Posts: 117 Location: Middle of nowhere
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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There is a small hole/passage drilled in the engine case behind the oil seal. If that passage is plugged it will let oil under pressure build up and be the source of a huge oil leak. Since the seal has to come out anyway, be sure that passage is clear and the oil seal flange does not obstruct it.
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cbeck Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2014 Posts: 2495 Location: high ridge, mo
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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I got rearended and bent the pulley. |
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Mikedrevguy Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2008 Posts: 2237 Location: Medford, OR
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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I've run the dual main seals wth good success. _________________ 74 1303 (RevBug): plan for German Look
76 914 with 2260
79 VW Iltis
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ratrodtrike Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2016 Posts: 9 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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The drain hole is clear, I emoryed the flywheel surface, I greased the inner lip of the seal, their is no groove in the flywheel. The seal split on the outer surface along the spring. I put the seal in flush so I think I will install the next one a mm or so further into the case. |
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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I can sympathise with that- First build for a trike after 20 years off- and I got a set of chinese bearings with the wrong center main- so- being used to getting german bearings and quality- I put it together checking everything except center mains as "like really- who does that."
The results were a great running engine that grenaded in a 1000 a thousand miles.
It sounded great at idle but mid-range it sounded like the pistons were swapping holes.
So- being embarrassed and surprised I just swapped the tin to a new rebuild with german bearings and never looked d back- That motor is still on the road and doing fine- the dead one sits in a crate on the porch. If I ever need a set of heads I'll see if I can find it. _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: crankshaft bounce |
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Mikedrevguy wrote: |
I've run the dual main seals wth good success. |
How do you do that?-- heard of 2 drain holes, but 2 main seals? _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.
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