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Danwvw Samba Member
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 10:48 am Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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Well shit! I may be starting all over. I don't know how I missed this. The upper #3 case saver is missing and looks like it was pulled out? There are threads way back in the hole for the stud and it threads in good. WTF. IS THIS OKAY? Or do I need a new case or case saver or??? Seems like one step toward and 3 steps back. Or do I need a longer stud? Help me out
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 11:03 am Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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So the stud kit I got from Skat has 1 longer stud. I put them all in and it looks right. Hopefully I'm freaking out for nothing. Speaking of studs. Do I need to use red locktight on these or something else?? Let me know if I'm screwed( no pun intended)or good. Thanks.
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 11:16 am Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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#3 is deep studded. Its done to keep the dreaded #3 case cracking issue at bay. |
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chubby53 Samba Member
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 4496 Location: Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 11:58 am Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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I use blue Loctite or thread sealant on the studs. Using red Loctite can cause the problem of insert to back out if you ever need to remove the studs.
Are the inserts (case savers) blind holes or can you see through them? _________________ Joseph
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[email protected] Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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not lucky, it's the "standard" practice now. The deep studded #3 prevents case cracking in the bell housing area.
Standard cases for DP = 4 short, 4 medium, 8 long
Deep studded case for DP = 4 short, 3 medium, 9 long
I use blue thread locker on the head studs bases. Do NOT turn them all the way in! Go in all the way, then back out 1 full turn.
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So I'm good. No problems. 😎 And I got lucky on my stud kit purchase?? |
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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[email protected] wrote: |
not lucky, it's the "standard" practice now. The deep studded #3 prevents case cracking in the bell housing area.
Standard cases for DP = 4 short, 4 medium, 8 long
Deep studded case for DP = 4 short, 3 medium, 9 long
I use blue thread locker on the head studs bases. Do NOT turn them all the way in! Go in all the way, then back out 1 full turn.
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So I'm good. No problems. 😎 And I got lucky on my stud kit purchase?? |
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Cool thanks. I will check to see if they go all the way their and get some blue. And back out 1 full turn. Why back out. Is it for a little more thread at the head? Oh and let's not take from my glory and say I'm lucky. Haha. Have a a bad string of bad luck this year. 😔😀😀 _________________ My build:
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Danwvw Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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I wouldn't back them out unless you need the threads. I would just tighten them up till they bottom out then back off to just slightly tight like 7 ft lbs or something and yes blue thread locker. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths!
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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You do not want to bottom out the stud. It needs room for expansion. Your one full thread backing out is more than enough room for the stud to be able to expand without doing any damage. _________________ Joseph
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:18 am Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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well, i got my 3rd set of main bearings
got the crankshaft and cam installed and it turns nice and smooth. installed oil pump, it's nice and smooth also.
now my question is about timing for the distributor drive. It seems like i could not get it perfectly at 90º in the case. is this okay or is there something wrong?
at this position it looks like the crank is at TDC for #1 _________________ My build:
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:50 am Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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Glad the engine turns now, important.
Is the distributor drive gear down all the way? Does a distributor seat fully if you stick that in? _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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Yeah, it's seated all the way. I could try turning the dizzy drive over one tooth, but i think then it would be pointing a little in the other direction. I will mess with it tonight. If it's off a little bit, as long as i'm correct where the notch and rotor match up on the distributor won't it be okay, or will it through off my degrees when i'm timing it with a light?
I'm itching to get this thing done, but got a lot of work and time still ahead of me.
Been waiting on ordering heads. got a vw show to go to this weekend and want some $$$ to buy shit i don't need. haha. _________________ My build:
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[email protected] Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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Unless it's TDC for #3.
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at this position it looks like the crank is at TDC for #1 |
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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So I checked another motor I have laying around and it sits the same dizzy orientation so I think I will be okay.?.??
Next question. I could t get a straight anwser searching. For the cam gear bolts... Should I use locktight on them? Or just trust the locking washers that came with the cam. How tight should I torque those?
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chubby53 Samba Member
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modok Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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Opinions are divided on if the big tray really works right.
I think less is more.
The simple divider as seen in "how to hotrod" does seem to work well for what it is. Adding a slight extension and washer/ funnel shape end to the bottom of the pickup tube helps a LOT, but then you will be leaving off the screen. Some people HAVE to have a screen, so, ok let them have their screen, but I don't need it. I arrange a few magnets around the sump plate to catch any stray steel bits.
Works for me, works for Berg. |
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chubby53 Samba Member
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:28 am Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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again, if you guys could help? for the cam bolts... locktight? and how much to torque??? i didn't see anything in the WEBCAM instructions, but I could be blind. _________________ My build:
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chubby53 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. |
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Well. Kind of hit a stop. My oldest daughter sucked my wallet dry for now.
I did see the new CB performance 044 panchito head come out. Would those be a better choice over Tims heads? _________________ My build:
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