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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Well shit! I may be starting all over. I don't know how I missed this. The upper #3 case saver is missing and looks like it was pulled out? There are threads way back in the hole for the stud and it threads in good. WTF. IS THIS OKAY? Or do I need a new case or case saver or??? Seems like one step toward and 3 steps back. Or do I need a longer stud? Help me out
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

So the stud kit I got from Skat has 1 longer stud. I put them all in and it looks right. Hopefully I'm freaking out for nothing. Speaking of studs. Do I need to use red locktight on these or something else?? Let me know if I'm screwed( no pun intended)or good. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

#3 is deep studded. Its done to keep the dreaded #3 case cracking issue at bay.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

So I'm good. No problems. 😎 And I got lucky on my stud kit purchase??
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

I use blue Loctite or thread sealant on the studs. Using red Loctite can cause the problem of insert to back out if you ever need to remove the studs.
Are the inserts (case savers) blind holes or can you see through them?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

not lucky, it's the "standard" practice now. The deep studded #3 prevents case cracking in the bell housing area.

Standard cases for DP = 4 short, 4 medium, 8 long
Deep studded case for DP = 4 short, 3 medium, 9 long

I use blue thread locker on the head studs bases. Do NOT turn them all the way in! Go in all the way, then back out 1 full turn.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

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not lucky, it's the "standard" practice now. The deep studded #3 prevents case cracking in the bell housing area.

Standard cases for DP = 4 short, 4 medium, 8 long
Deep studded case for DP = 4 short, 3 medium, 9 long

I use blue thread locker on the head studs bases. Do NOT turn them all the way in! Go in all the way, then back out 1 full turn.

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So I'm good. No problems. 😎 And I got lucky on my stud kit purchase??


Cool thanks. I will check to see if they go all the way their and get some blue. And back out 1 full turn. Why back out. Is it for a little more thread at the head? Oh and let's not take from my glory and say I'm lucky. Haha. Have a a bad string of bad luck this year. 😔😀😀
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

I wouldn't back them out unless you need the threads. I would just tighten them up till they bottom out then back off to just slightly tight like 7 ft lbs or something and yes blue thread locker.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

You do not want to bottom out the stud. It needs room for expansion. Your one full thread backing out is more than enough room for the stud to be able to expand without doing any damage.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

well, i got my 3rd set of main bearings Embarassed
got the crankshaft and cam installed and it turns nice and smooth. installed oil pump, it's nice and smooth also. Smile
now my question is about timing for the distributor drive. It seems like i could not get it perfectly at 90º in the case. is this okay or is there something wrong?
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at this position it looks like the crank is at TDC for #1
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Glad the engine turns now, important.

Is the distributor drive gear down all the way? Does a distributor seat fully if you stick that in?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Yeah, it's seated all the way. I could try turning the dizzy drive over one tooth, but i think then it would be pointing a little in the other direction. I will mess with it tonight. If it's off a little bit, as long as i'm correct where the notch and rotor match up on the distributor won't it be okay, or will it through off my degrees when i'm timing it with a light?

I'm itching to get this thing done, but got a lot of work and time still ahead of me.
Been waiting on ordering heads. got a vw show to go to this weekend and want some $$$ to buy shit i don't need. haha.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Unless it's TDC for #3.

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at this position it looks like the crank is at TDC for #1

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

So I checked another motor I have laying around and it sits the same dizzy orientation so I think I will be okay.?.??
Next question. I could t get a straight anwser searching. For the cam gear bolts... Should I use locktight on them? Or just trust the locking washers that came with the cam. How tight should I torque those?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:01 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Another question. Should I put in a windage tray or or those for bigger motors. It is going into a baja.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Opinions are divided on if the big tray really works right.
I think less is more.

The simple divider as seen in "how to hotrod" does seem to work well for what it is. Adding a slight extension and washer/ funnel shape end to the bottom of the pickup tube helps a LOT, but then you will be leaving off the screen. Some people HAVE to have a screen, so, ok let them have their screen, but I don't need it. I arrange a few magnets around the sump plate to catch any stray steel bits.
Works for me, works for Berg.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Do you have pics of what you are talking about and how to install?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

again, if you guys could help? for the cam bolts... locktight? and how much to torque??? i didn't see anything in the WEBCAM instructions, but I could be blind.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: advise on an 1835 build please. Reply with quote

Well. Kind of hit a stop. My oldest daughter sucked my wallet dry for now.
I did see the new CB performance 044 panchito head come out. Would those be a better choice over Tims heads?
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