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youngbug74 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2015 Posts: 196 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 9:10 am Post subject: Winshield seal instal |
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When I purchased my bout a year ago it came with the windshield seal but it appears to be much bigger than the actual Windshield. Also where the seal splits to form around the window does the thicker part go on the outside or inside? |
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Air-Cooled Head Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2002 Posts: 4070 Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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First question: Do you have the correct seal?
More info needed.
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5601 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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thicker part go on the outside |
Wider? Thicker? Yes! _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
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Goldbug3318 Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 210 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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youngbug74 wrote: |
When I purchased my bout a year ago it came with the windshield seal but it appears to be much bigger than the actual Windshield. Also where the seal splits to form around the window does the thicker part go on the outside or inside? |
OP like others stated a bit more info would be good. Here is a video that helped me. The video is on an older car than mine but the technique is the same. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGMd0CrEQig
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youngbug74 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2015 Posts: 196 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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I got the right seal and I have it around the window, I can't get it back into my bug. I tried the wire trick many times I lubricated the seal but I still can't get it to seat into my bug |
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beetlenut Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2009 Posts: 2983 Location: RI
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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youngbug74 wrote: |
I got the right seal and I have it around the window, I can't get it back into my bug. I tried the wire trick many times I lubricated the seal but I still can't get it to seat into my bug |
Get some silicone spray and spray the inside part of the whole seal that goes over the metal lip, especially the corners. Put the seal on the window first. Get the bottom of the seal installed on the bottom metal lip of the car first. The silicon spray, and even some silicon grease will help get it over the corners. Also leaving the seal out in the sun for awhile before installing will also help you work it. A gentle helper will also help on the outside, lightly pushing at times, to help you get the seal pulled over the lip in places. _________________ scrapyards are for quitters
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5601 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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silicone spray and spray the inside part |
Silicone works but it never 'dries'. Liquid dish soap detergent, cut with some water, makes the gasket/seal 'slippery' and it will dry after the seal is installed. Put the gasket inner lip on the bottom of the window opening. I use # 10 or #12 gauge wire wrapped around the glass crossed at the bottom of the window. It's best to put the seal seam at the top of the glass, centered with the rear view mirror. Some cross the wire at the top of the glass. I always use the bottom. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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You could always be lazy like me and just have a glass shop do it. It's pretty cheap if you already have the glass and the seal. Let them fight with it while you kick back with a cold beverage. _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
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air-h2o-air Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2015 Posts: 579
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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if the bug you are working on is the 1 in your avatar......you may need to remove the ladder looking metal clipped onto the inside lip of body. Many of the replacement rubbers do not have the proper width groove in rubber to stretch over that ladder.
the ladder was factory installed and claimed to help stop windshields from popping out in an accident |
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FeelthySanchez Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2011 Posts: 1349 Location: Now is that a real poncho, or a Sears poncho?
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:35 am Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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Have had great luck w/ 18-20ft of strong, small dia nylon cord & very watery liquid dish soap. Never tried wire ...... _________________
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JeffRens Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2012 Posts: 267 Location: Mishawaka, IN
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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I had a windshield installation nightmare... This is what I learned.....
Victory! Went in like butter. What I learned... hopefully will help others. I used dish soap, and plenty of it. I used a thicker weed eater line in the seal. Some of the tips I got....
1. Wrap the line around twice (this was per JBugs customer service). If one pulls out (which it did for me).. there's a backup.
2. THIS WAS HUGE. Use the ratchet strap and towels like the picture shows. It keeps a nice even pressure and doesn't allow the glass to shift
3. Do use a second person.. even though this might be possible with one if you use the towels and the ratchet strap.They can add a little extra pressure where needed.
4. Aftermarket glass is about 2mm thicker than the original, (probably the new DOT standard), but did not affect anything with my WCM seal. I think that might have been the problem with the JBugs seal. The JBugs seal was a little thicker and stiffer than the WCM seal. With the thicker glass the JBugs seal would not compress enough and caused my problems. It think it would have been fine with OE glass. It actually y seemed to be better quality than the WCM seal, but it didn't work for me. As a passing note, JBugs customer service was very helpful and is refunding me for their seal.
Thank you to the group for the advice. This job was a bitch and shouldn't have been if I would have done theses things in the first of my 3 attempts. A special thanks The Ladybug who sent an accurate template to me that I could've used to have a glass cut again, which I didn't because I just ended up buying a glass from ISP West. It was invaluable to size up things to make sure everything made sense. If anybody needs this template, you're welcome to it.
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grandpa pete Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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HEY ! that 's my idea !!!
Windshield installation : ALONE
Let me explain what you are looking at ;
First ; orange weed wacker line in the groove around the window ; and then taped to the inside of the window ; weed wacker line doesn't catch on metal like cloth line .
Second ; Pink string used to keep rubber on the windshield ; cut and pull out before you pull weed wacker line .
Third ; small amount of lubricant on the metal edge where the rubber seal fits
Fourth ; red wrachet strap holds windshield in place ; towels spread force eavenly across windshield . a second wrachet strap can be used across the bottom while you are starting to pull the weed wacker line out .
Fifth ; pull the weed wacker out across the bottom of the windshield and HALF WAY up each side .
READ STEP SIX CAREFULLY : THIS IS WHERE MOST WINDOWS GET CRACKED !!
Sixth ; at this point the glass is in the rubber and the rubber is on the lower edge BUT : the glass IS NOT all the way down in the frame . CAREFULLY get a rubber mallet and hit the top edge of the glass and knock it down onto the lower metal edge .
Seventh ; working from the end pull the weed wacker line up the side and across 1/2 the top as you guide the windshield into place then repeat on the other side .
Eighth ;
Disclaimer ; all glass work should be done by professionals in a professional setting professionally
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery |
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JeffRens Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2012 Posts: 267 Location: Mishawaka, IN
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Winshield seal instal |
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No it's not... you only used 2 towels!!! Like my post said, it was a compilation of all of the good ideas I had researched, yours certainly being one of them. Thanks... Jeff |
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