Overheating damages: Broken engine ?

[Captain Moustache]

Hello,

I was driving on the highway when my engine noise changed, I stopped asap and heard a breaking noise. There was a light smoke coming from the fan.
There was broken metal pieces in the engine compartment which seem to come from here:

Here are the pieces:

The engine cranks but won't start and accelerating seems to have no effect.
I can also hear some kind of clicking noise every 3 crank which moves the bus a little bit.

Thanks.


Edit: 1970, 1600cc.

[Danwvw]

It has thrown one of your rods. Don't try to crank it you will only damage the crank and rods or other parts that may still be good. Your Case is shot!
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[Captain Moustache]

So how do I go from here ?
Is it even fixable ?

Also, what was the most probable cause ? Overheating ?

[Danwvw]

It will need to be taken out of the car and taken apart and rebuilt with new parts. Or find another good engine for your car.
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[richparker]

Not fixable. It's time for a new build. That usually happens when you run it out of oil...have you been checking the oil at every gas stop?

Good news is you have a lot of parts that are reusable with your new build. All the tins and most of the bolt on parts can be carried over the the new engine. It's time to find a builder.
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[Captain Moustache]

Okay, thank you.

I guess it's time to put it to sleep for a few years then .

It's my fault I overlooked checking the oil lately. I'm a dumbass.

[Danwvw]

Rich often when they throw a rod it just breaks the cam in two and the case and of course that piston will be destroyed it could wreck the head may-be not and the crank is likely bad but may not be it may just need to be re-ground. It happened to my 66 Bug years ago but yeah, its a good idea to find another motor but many of the parts will still be good. Everything needs to be checked by a machinist to see if it's still good though.
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[Danwvw]

[Captain Moustache]

No but to be fair it might not even be working. I've never seen it on.
When I checked the oil (after it broke) it was under the minimum stripe.

[old DKP driver]

Yes' it a shame your engine has died but, i.t does not mean you are at fault

It is a failure that is most common.
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[airschooled]

The oil warning light?

[tootype2crazy]

Time to go back and read John Muir's idiot manual (no offense). The idiot lights are the only thing that keeps you in the know about what your engine is doing while driving. They are essential.

You're not going to want to reuse a single component inside that engine. Metal shavings no doubt made their way through the oil long before the rod ever broke, and that rod has to get really really hot to break like that which means your crank got really really hot too and is probably purple from the heat which means it's junk. Also where the rod seized up it will have ruined the crank journal beyond repair (except for welding in new material and regrinding, but it's cheaper to get a different one).
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[Danwvw]

It's not all that worse than other things that happen to them just more dramatic! The flywheel that I use now came off an engine that broke the crankshaft. And then there was my stock engine Building a Stock ish Type 1 engine for the 1971 VW Bus? which was running fine when I took it out of my bus. Bus upon tearing it down I discovered that pretty much everything was bad. The heads were cracked, the crank had metal eaten out of it by corrosion, the case was hammered out beyond machining, the flywheel which looked perfect turned out to be (out of round) and had been causing the premature deaf (hammering out the case) of every engine it had ever been run on. Rod's and engine tin etc are the only parts I could use.
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[richparker]

Here's a pick of a rod that went right through the case in the same spot as the OPs. Bad news

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[Wildthings]

I have posted this many times before, "sufficient oil is more important than the type of the oil one uses" and "an oil pressure warning light is way more important than a gauge".

I know that few believe I am going right, but I have run a quart over the "FULL" mark on both my Type 1 and Type 4 engines for nearly 40 years now and like the assurance it gives me that I will not ever run dangerously low on oil.

[timvw7476]

I'm all for gauge-less, as-delivered VWs.
But run a functioning idiot light & check oil once every fortnight. FFS

[airschooled]

[Tcash]

[Brian]

[qwerksc]

I had the same thing happen to me. 65 bug, flying in commuter traffic, then Bang! blew the rod, the thing shot a silver dollar sized chunk outta the case.
figured that was the engine rebuild light going off.