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Pat D
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 Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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After 3 years of design and testing, I'm happy to say that the New 044 Panchito head is on the market. No out of the box VW casting head comes close to the performance and cooling efficiency of this cylinder head.
Check it out.
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1671
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AlteWagen
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MConstable
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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| How is cooling improved? |
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Pat D
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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| MConstable wrote: |
| How is cooling improved? |
Cooling is improved over other VW casting heads. We tried to duplicate the cooling of a stock VW casting. Other than the increased material around the bores, the new Panchito resembles a stock casting very close.
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AlteWagen
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MConstable
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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| Pat D wrote: |
| MConstable wrote: |
| How is cooling improved? |
Cooling is improved over other VW casting heads. We tried to duplicate the cooling of a stock VW casting. Other than the increased material around the bores, the new Panchito resembles a stock casting very close. |
Thanks Pat! |
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Pat D
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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| AlteWagen wrote: |
| PatD, any flow numbers that I can add to the cylinder head sheet or are they the same as the old Panchitos? |
As cast 85.5mm combustion chamber 54cc
flow at 25"
LIFT CFM
.100-47
.200-90
.300-126
.400-145
.500-155
.600-162
92/94mm CNC combustion chamber 61cc
flow at 25"
LIFT CFM
.100-50
.200-96
.300-138
.400-159
.500-167
.600-172
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scotth17
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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| How do they compare to the mini wedge ports? |
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jfats808
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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155cfm @ .500 as cast is nice. Almost 25cfm up from a std 044 head casting. Also 61 cc cnc chambers would support a nice low budget turbo build.
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vwinnovator
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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can we get a close up of the combustion chambers "out of the box" as purchased?
so far every 044 "out of the box" head I've come across has needed a lot of clean up around the seats from inconsistant machining / seat installation. |
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modok
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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That is AWESOME!
Thank you Pat!
Of course, everybody will want something slightly different ect, ect, but screw em. That's the best street head I've ever seen, and the price is LOW.
i KNOW how much work it is to duplicate that, it's a lot of work, you could not pay me to do it. CB has come a long way in ten years. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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| this is awesome!!! congrats.they look good from the pics. |
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jpaull
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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Very Nice Job on the Intake Ports, definitely maximized the material available 
$570 for a set of heads flowing 167 @ 25 is a great deal. This is about 176CFM @ 28, so if your comparing these to other heads measured @28 you can see they have achieved a monumental landmark here. 
All that out of a 40X35.5, I like it!
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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Awesome heads... looking forward to seeing them in person.
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MURZI
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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Can't wait to see all the local guys install them on their stock cammed 1600's.
Seriously man this is a great buy!!!
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Pizza Eater
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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Woohoo!
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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beautiful
cant wait to see what power some competent engine builders put out with these heads.
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modok
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Best street head to hit the market in many years |
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Whaaat??
Look at the pictures, it has "panchito 044" cast where the part number usually is |
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