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sambaphil Samba Member
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22410 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Matching Numbers in 64 Notch - How Rare? |
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When I sold my 64 T-34 in late 2014, I included the German title and the original owner's manual (in German) that had service stamps up to within 10,000 miles of what my odometer showed (with most of the stamps inked in by the original dealership). That car was also a numbers matching car according to the German title. I even had the car repainted Sea Blue#2 which was a little hard to find in my part of the country, and it had to be custom mixed. I enjoyed the car, but I could never get comfortable in it while driving, hence the reason I sold it.
So Yes, they are out there, just not very common to see. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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DMNCLNR Sir Camp'alot
Joined: November 12, 2003 Posts: 2897 Location: Newport Beach Ca
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Matching Numbers in 64 Notch - How Rare? |
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The 63 I have matches as well as the 64 I just sold.
The 63 has hand written stickers in the door jamb with mileage and what work was performed. Looks like the owner did his work himself.. The car was driven less than 20,000 miles since the 80's _________________ To his their own PBJ
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69807 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Matching Numbers in 64 Notch - How Rare? |
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My opinion:
It's common on the nicer and usually low mileage cars and uncommon on the multiple owner, higher mileage cars.
I've had at least 4 Type 3s with 100K miles or less, all had the original engine.
Your question does make me wonder if it's more common for Type 3s than other models to have the original engine still intact now that they are 40+ years old.
Maybe... _________________ How to Post Photos
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Matching Numbers in 64 Notch - How Rare? |
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Both of my current Variants came with the original engine. A 65 that I parted out due to chassis damage and rust also had the original engine. I kept that engine and it's been rebuilt and sits in my garage.
I know I've had at least two other early Variants with original engines. |
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DMNCLNR Sir Camp'alot
Joined: November 12, 2003 Posts: 2897 Location: Newport Beach Ca
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Matching Numbers in 64 Notch - How Rare? |
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EverettB wrote: |
My opinion:
It's common on the nicer and usually low mileage cars and uncommon on the multiple owner, higher mileage cars.
I've had at least 4 Type 3s with 100K miles or less, all had the original engine.
Your question does make me wonder if it's more common for Type 3s than other models to have the original engine still intact now that they are 40+ years old.
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I would that that per amount made type 3's retain there original engine a considerable amount more that bug's buses etc.. Bugs seem so much more interchangeable over the years and type 3 owners seemed to be a little more essentric and meticulous. _________________ To his their own PBJ
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chaosisme Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 1256 Location: Orange County, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Matching Numbers in 64 Notch - How Rare? |
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My '65 does not have the original engine but Im fairly certain my '68 does. _________________ '65 1500 S [quareback]
'68 FI Sunroof Squareback
'70 Westy
OCT3 - Orange County Type 3's |
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13270 Location: Tejas!
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sambaphil Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2009 Posts: 206 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Matching Numbers in 64 Notch - How Rare? |
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Erik G wrote: |
DMNCLNR wrote: |
type 3 owners seemed to be a little more essentric and meticulous. |
you can say that again x1000
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Hey Guys,
So first of all Erik, your notch is awesome. It is waaay harder to keep a car OG / stock than it is to customize. So kudos to you for keeping it so true.
As far as original engines in type 3's my early conclusion that it is more common than I thought due to reasons stated above. Thanks for the comments. _________________ Link to 1966 Samba Build
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=607420
Link to 1971 Bay Bus - Clipper - L
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=671945&highlight=
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