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TinCanFab
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Welding is finished, PO welds cleaned up, and all pressure washed. A little paint prep and I'll shoot it after it's fully air dried. It's been 105+ degrees all week so that won't be a problem. Temp drops back to the 90's next week so I'll be good to go if I spray early in the morning. While it cures, I can tackle prepping the body to go back on. I plan on cleaning the heater channels, bottom of package tray and under the gas tank areas. I want to paint those areas now and blend in final paint when the time comes. I don't mind having to mask everything well for a trip to a paint booth as long as the car can roll.
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Mr. Mike 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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Nice! You're doing such a great job. I appriciate all the pics you're including.
Cheers!
Mike
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TinCanFab
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63Ragtop NZ
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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Yeah man, looking good!
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charliesnyder
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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| I might have missed it but what did you paint your pan with? |
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TinCanFab
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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| I might have missed it but what did you paint your pan with? |
Thanks for the compliments guys 
I used self etching primer in thin coats, after it flashed over and looks dull, I went straight to acrylic urethane single stage paint, 2 coats. This black was a free gallon I got that has some metallic mixed in, but it's not that much or noticeable. If I was going for a full on show finish and more $$$, I recommend:
High build primer sanded to perfection
Black sealer coat before paint
Plain black single stage or base/clear metallic
Professional paint booth, not like my front yard lol
We will not trailer this car to shows, I know I'm gonna drive the hell out of it, so I couldn't justify the extra cost.
Some of the pan looks textured, because a PO coated it with Zolatone. A popular bed liner type coating with speckles that is REALLY hard to get off. I left it on the nook and cranny areas for more rust protection. Even with MAPP gas torch heat, the Zolatone only turned black and was still super tough to get off.
The brand of paint and clear products on most of what I do is Martin Senour. It's a very old brand owned by Sherwin Williams and sold through NAPA parts stores. I live in a small town and it's the only place that sells paint. I'm getting body shop wholesale pricing  there are lots of great paints, this is just convenient
High build primer: Clausen All-U-Need
Single stage acrylic urethane: Martin Senour Crossfire 2.8 VOC
Base/clear body color acrylic urethane: Martin Senour Pro Base Solvent based low VOC
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charliesnyder
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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| roachdub58 wrote: |
| charliesnyder wrote: |
| I might have missed it but what did you paint your pan with? |
Thanks for the compliments guys
I used self etching primer in thin coats, after it flashed over and looks dull, I went straight to acrylic urethane single stage paint, 2 coats. This black was a free gallon I got that has some metallic mixed in, but it's not that much or noticeable. If I was going for a full on show finish and more $$$, I recommend:
High build primer sanded to perfection
Black sealer coat before paint
Plain black single stage or base/clear metallic
Professional paint booth, not like my front yard lol
We will not trailer this car to shows, I know I'm gonna drive the hell out of it, so I couldn't justify the extra cost.
Some of the pan looks textured, because a PO coated it with Zolatone. A popular bed liner type coating with speckles that is REALLY hard to get off. I left it on the nook and cranny areas for more rust protection. Even with MAPP gas torch heat, the Zolatone only turned black and was still super tough to get off.
The brand of paint and clear products on most of what I do is Martin Senour. It's a very old brand owned by Sherwin Williams and sold through NAPA parts stores. I live in a small town and it's the only place that sells paint. I'm getting body shop wholesale pricing there are lots of great paints, this is just convenient
High build primer: Clausen All-U-Need
Single stage acrylic urethane: Martin Senour Crossfire 2.8 VOC
Base/clear body color acrylic urethane: Martin Senour Pro Base Solvent based low VOC |
Thanks for the response. My car will be far from show but I want/need something strong. Leaning towards some kind of undercoating. |
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TinCanFab
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| Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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I really needed the body off to get these replacement brackets welded in. There's a tab on the bottom you can't get to with the shock tower in the way. The new ones are slightly smaller as you can see from my pen outline, I think they came off a 62 or so. The important thing is to get the bottom tab in the same spot so the height of the bracket is correct.
The two holes I didn't weld up are original for 60's cars, but the ones I removed were plain, so I'll go back and weld those up too.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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Once I drilled the front of the channel with a 1" holesaw, I was able to fish out the threaded plate. Looks like during a previous pan swap, a PO got one bolt out and broke the other one. Then, they just bashed the hole thing into the channel and broke the retaining bracket. 
Take your time removing your pan bolts! They are a bitch to fix properly. It's funny that I got the broken bolt out pretty easy with 3 minutes of heat. What a shame.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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I forgot about that- it's a Wilwood adjustable proportioning/bias valve. Once I added rear disc brakes, the rears would lock up way too soon, even with a 4 wheel disc master. At the time I was running skinny front tires. Plumb the valve inline with your rear curcuit and you can dial in how hard your rear braking comes on. Nothing about this 4 wheel disc setup/ suspension is standard or even with matching manufacturers. This little inexpensive valve gets you your money's worth when you buy rear discs. With all the weight and drive wheels at the rear and such a light car, it makes a big difference. I can change to any tire/wheel combo I want and always dial it in with a twist of the knob.
It comes as 1/8" NPT, so you will have to adapt it. CNC makes some nice adapters for metric brake bubble flares. I'm using AN -3 on the input and Vw bubble flare on the output side.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:51 am Post subject: Re: They're NEVER really ever finished!... 58 rag build |
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| Cool build you got going. I'm interested in the supercharger. Did you consider mounting it vertically?. I was messing with one on my 1385 ,& was pulling 8 pounds max. It about cut my mpg in half though. Hard to not keep it floored. I'm currently putting my car back together after new pans & h.channels & was considering installing s.charger in the vertical. |
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