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3foldfolly
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| The nose cone, gasket and curved release arm arrived next day air as promised. Now to decide which arm to bend which way. Have a fancy snap-on 17mm swivel, shouldn't take much. Thanks to all who replied and thanks to Greg for the good advice. |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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Did you get the spring seat also??
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3foldfolly
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| Eric&Barb wrote: |
| Did you get the spring seat also?? |
The spring seat is there, Just hard to see in the photos. |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| 3foldfolly wrote: |
| Eric&Barb wrote: |
| Did you get the spring seat also?? |
The spring seat is there, Just hard to see in the photos. |
Good!
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brettsvw
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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Is it just me or does that case look really pitted?
The side plates look corroded where they match up to the case too.
Maybe it doesn't matter as long as everything seals up?
I would definitely want a new nose cone at a minimum. |
I was thinking the same thing Ev, that case looks like a road salt area case or one sitting out in rain and mud if so the inside is just as bad if not worse. and He was charged the core fee for a case and nose cone. sounds almost like they just wanted to trade cases with him and get rid of this one. and charge him for it.
3foldfolly, did you ever see a hole in your transmission case you sent in?
In all trannies I've seen I've never seen just a hole??? cracks, busted in half, and corrosion yes, but to get a hole from corrosion it would be so obvious you would never send it in to get rebuilt.
At this point I think I would force them for a complete replacement. |
I thought the same thing. I would want my replacement case to be in better condition. Case corrosion looks similar to the nosecone like they have been together from the beginning.
Did you take a pic of your case numbers before shipping out.
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mr white
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| I have thought lately about getting six big nut trannies I have laying around with various issues repaired. After reading this thread, frankly I am shocked that this even passed quality control. I have called a few places and received quotes as high as 2500. Time I learn these myself are my thoughts. Please keep us posted on the end result. I am surprised no signs of Curil T on this trans at the seams. |
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3foldfolly
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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I'm trying to figure out what year and model this case is from.
It has serial # H7194416 stamped into the side. I couldn't locate that # in the technical section. Anyone know how to de-code this? |
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Abscate
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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If you take that clutch lever arm off, just tack a new receiver on to it on the left side to line up with the Bowden cable. EZPZ
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brettsvw
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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You could be missing the first letter.
Type 1, 181 and 3w
Code Engine Mate Final Drive Model
AA 1200 4.375 From Chassis Number 0981810
AB 1300 4.375 Up to 1970
AC 1500 4.125 On some 1300 from 1971
AD 1200 4.375 Limited Slip Diff. (LSD)
AE 1300 4.375 With LSD
AF 1500 4.125 LSD to 1970
AG 1200 4.375 Used on Type 147
AH 1500 4.125 IRS from 1969
1600 4.125 1970-’71
AK 1500 3.875 Type 181 to 1970
1600 3.875 Type 181 from 1971
AL 1500 3.875 Type 181 with LSD to 1970
1600 3.875 Type 181 with IRS and LSD from 1971
AM 1300 4.375 Sedan and Vert from 1971
AN 1600 3.875 KG with IRS from 1971
AO 1300 3.875 KG from 1971
AP 1300 4.375 LSD from 1970-’71
AQ 1600 4.125 LSD from 1971-1972
AR 1600 3.875 KG with LSD from 1971
AS 1600 3.875 Type I from 1973
AT 1600 3.875 Type 1303 and Verts from 1973
AU 1600 3.875 Type 1303 with LSD from 1973
BA 1300/1500 4.375 Auto-stick from 1969-’70
BC 1300/1500 4.375 Auto-stick from 1969-’70 with LSD
BE 1600 4.125 Auto-stick from 1971-’72
BF 1600 4.125 Auto-stick from 1971-’72 with LSD
BG 1300 4.125 KG with auto-stick from 1971
BH 1300 4.125 KG with auto-stick from 1971 with LSD
BJ 1300 4.375 Auto-stick from 1971
BK 1300 4.375 Auto-stick from 1971 with LSD
DA 1500/1600 4.125 Type III SA to 1968
DB 1500/1600 4.125 Type III SA to 1968 with LSD
DC 1500/1600 4.125 Type III IRS from 1969
DD 1500/1600 4.125 Type III IRS from 1969 with LSD
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3foldfolly
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| Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| Finally got my bus reassembled and road worthy.All new WW trans mounts carefully installed per Bentley procedure. Upon driving I found this trans has a loud whine in 3rd and 4th gear, 1st and 2nd are relatively quiet. When in 3rd and 4th a heavy vibration almost grinding feel is felt in the shift lever and a howl is heard under load, loudest in 4th gear between 40-50 mph. Is this normal for reduction gear trans or do they gradually get louder in all gears as relation to vehicle speed? |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| Is this normal for reduction gear trans or do they gradually get louder in all gears as relation to vehicle speed? |
No, for us at least with the 2 transporters the engine and road noise is much more noticeable. Got to ask, have you double checked the gear oil in the transaxle is still right at the fill plug level??
Might try inquiring with the shop on what they think about it. Maybe it will quiet down after a few hundred miles....
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hazetguy
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| Finally got my bus reassembled and road worthy.All new WW trans mounts carefully installed per Bentley procedure. Upon driving I found this trans has a loud whine in 3rd and 4th gear, 1st and 2nd are relatively quiet. When in 3rd and 4th a heavy vibration almost grinding feel is felt in the shift lever and a howl is heard under load, loudest in 4th gear between 40-50 mph. Is this normal for reduction gear trans or do they gradually get louder in all gears as relation to vehicle speed? |
Nope, it's not "normal".
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BarryL 
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| 3foldfolly wrote: |
| ...loud whine in 3rd and 4th gear... |
Not good.
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| ...1st and 2nd are relatively quiet. |
Still there is something wrong.
| 3foldfolly wrote: |
| ...in 3rd and 4th a heavy vibration almost grinding feel is felt in the shift lever... |
Bad scene.
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| ...a howl is heard under load... |
If not under load is it ever quiet?
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| ...loudest in 4th gear between 40-50 mph. |
The simple answer would be ring and pinion but I think it's more than that but ring and pinion should not be doing it with a correct fresh setup.
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| Is this normal for reduction gear trans or do they gradually get louder in all gears as relation to vehicle speed? |
I've had some drive trains that seemed to have louder reduction box whirr and almost a rhythm to them but usually just a sweet light whirr. Whirr pitch rises and falls with speed but not intensity.
Of course, as stuff starts to fail, you'll get new sounds. For example the double-taper pinion bearing failing sounds like water running in pipes in a house.
Just for kicks make sure your shift rod at the rear is not touching the body tube where it is supposed to float without touching. |
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3foldfolly
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| Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| Well a little update here. I removed the transaxle on an unusually warm day in late November and shipped it back to Rancho early December. They shipped back last week. Dave at Rancho said they replaced the ring and pinion gear due to a chip on the gears. I'm really curious of what I have now but it's too cold here to reinstall, waiting for another unusually warm weekend. I hope this story has a happy ending. |
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3foldfolly
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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| Had nice weather this weekend so I installed the trans and engine.Took it out for a road test and was relieved to find the noise was gone. Happy ending! |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Reman trans concerns |
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Thanks for posting that update! Have fun with it!
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