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Miklo ¡Chale!
Joined: August 27, 2008 Posts: 2058 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:30 am Post subject: Paypal claim help.... |
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Not really sure on where to put this.I recently sold a type 2 clock here on thesamba.
I state in my ad i DO NOT ship overseas. I also usually do not negotiate on price either. What i ask is what you get.
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I did a buyer two favors. One, I accepted his low offer. Two, i shipped to Germany.
He is now claiming he never recieved it and went staight to paypal claims asking for full refund and put the payment on hold.
Check out one of ads to read my poilcys
Now I state all this in all my ads. If you lowball me, you loose your tracking. Which i usually pay anyways if you pay my asking price.
What should I do? I have all shipping reciepts and everything?
Never have I had a problem selling on here. _________________ ✠Miklo✠
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'66 Type1 "Charlotte" RIP
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OB Bus Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2531 Location: Ocean Beach in Beautiful BLUE California
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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Sorry for the problem but tracking protects the buyer and seller. I always have tracking on my shipments and factor that into the total price. Except for some very unique items I have sold I do not ship out of the US. Even to Canada. Just too many problems. _________________ Larry in OB
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2012 Posts: 3037 Location: Prescott Az.
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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You might need to show the receipt you got from the shipper to the paypal rep. Once they settle it, you or the buyer will need to make a claim with the shipper for the value of the item which you had to put on the international customs form you filled out. _________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
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Miklo ¡Chale!
Joined: August 27, 2008 Posts: 2058 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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OB Bus wrote: |
Sorry for the problem but tracking protects the buyer and seller. I always have tracking on my shipments and factor that into the total price. Except for some very unique items I have sold I do not ship out of the US. Even to Canada. Just too many problems. |
Yeah. I usually do tracking unless im lowballed. Then I consider that choice on the buyer. Guess ill have to rethink that...
Either way i dont think ill be accepting paypal any longer. _________________ ✠Miklo✠
'55 Type1 "Ozma"
'66 Type1 "Charlotte" RIP
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Dr OnHolliday wrote: |
As I remember it, lowriding was not one of the criteria that Adolf gave to Dr. Porsche... |
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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Don't even try to deal with Pay-pal- they weight in favor of the guy who ups the arbitration to claim first- best bet is the carriers insurance you collect and then refund- no tracking is a big deal- sorry- just went thru this as a buyer and it took weeks to get my $ back and had to document every e-mail and present it to the credit card company- once PP makes up it's mind- your done- so act fast- scan and send all ads and correspondence to pay pal- if they find against you - all you have left is the carriers insurance.
the fact that he didn't wait for "claim" probably means he's done this before. _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12820 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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NEVER use PayPal when selling an item, their policies are very purchaser oriented, much worse than credit cards & for this reason there are lots of scammers that use them. If the individual contacted you through The Samba, I would definitely give them an honorable mention in "buyer & seller feedback". _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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so...how much was tracking?? |
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2012 Posts: 3037 Location: Prescott Az.
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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williamM wrote: |
with Pay-pal- they weight in favor of the guy who ups the arbitration to claim first- |
True but I have had them refund the buyer without taking the money from me, they just paid it back and we both were happy. _________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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Red Fau Veh wrote: |
williamM wrote: |
with Pay-pal- they weight in favor of the guy who ups the arbitration to claim first- |
True but I have had them refund the buyer without taking the money from me, they just paid it back and we both were happy. |
Did ya get his name- I'll ask for that guy next time somebody can't follow instructions _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13247 Location: Tejas!
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15281 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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How long has it been since you shipped it. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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OB Bus Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2531 Location: Ocean Beach in Beautiful BLUE California
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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VeeDubDoug wrote: |
Yeah. I usually do tracking unless im lowballed. Then I consider that choice on the buyer. Guess ill have to rethink that...
Either way i dont think ill be accepting paypal any longer. |
The problem here is not Paypal. It is the decision to forego tracking (and insurance?) when shipping overseas. Paypal brings you the seller far more customers than a requirement for check/money order/cash. As a buyer if I see an ad that says "no Paypal" it means that I do not buy the item. _________________ Larry in OB
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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OB Bus wrote: |
As a buyer if I see an ad that says "no Paypal" it means that I do not buy the item. |
Same here _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
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Miklo ¡Chale!
Joined: August 27, 2008 Posts: 2058 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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I shipped on 7/5/16... It has been a while. But I can say its taken me a while to receive stuff from Europe though... I get stuff ALLLL the time. I asked him to please wait while I investigate. This was a day ago mind you. Then I get a message from paypal this morning.
I'm a man of word. Sure my fine print might not mean jack to paypal...
I have contacted paypal with pictures of all receipts/customs sheet. We'll see... I know paypal sides with the buyer more times than not but I have proof it was shipped.
OB Bus wrote: |
VeeDubDoug wrote: |
Yeah. I usually do tracking unless im lowballed. Then I consider that choice on the buyer. Guess ill have to rethink that...
Either way i dont think ill be accepting paypal any longer. |
The problem here is not Paypal. It is the decision to forego tracking (and insurance?) when shipping overseas. Paypal brings you the seller far more customers than a requirement for check/money order/cash. As a buyer if I see an ad that says "no Paypal" it means that I do not buy the item. |
You know, I do agree OB, fully. Its not paypals fault. I knew it was a mistake not doing tracking... which I normally do anyways, cause people pay what I ask. I felt I was doing the guy a favor and felt he read my selling policy. Am I not justified? Basically, he didn't pay my asking prices. Waving insurance/tracking... I can see it biting me in my ass now. I just wont ship unless someone pays for insuance/tracking from now on, period.
I did this mainly to root out thesamba window-shoppers. I would get many, daily... it got old. If I was taking offers I would have it posted in thebay, thank you.
Here is my ad signature... I have not modified it. This is how he read it, or didn't.
*** I AM NOT SHIPPING INTERNATIONALY AT THE MOMENT, SORRY.***
If this ad is still posted, the item is still for sale.
I accept Paypal and Money Orders ONLY.
On money order payments I DO NOT ship the item untill I receive the money order by mail!
I DO NOT charge a % for payments made through PayPal... I'm not a cheapskate.
Insurance and/or tracking is available at extra cost... If you don't lowball me I usually throw it in anyways. For both of our sakes.
Buyer assumes all risk if they waive insurance and/or tracking. _________________ ✠Miklo✠
'55 Type1 "Ozma"
'66 Type1 "Charlotte" RIP
Antelope Valley's Mobile Air-Cooled Guru
Dr OnHolliday wrote: |
As I remember it, lowriding was not one of the criteria that Adolf gave to Dr. Porsche... |
Last edited by Miklo on Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16806 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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I guess I don't get the "no tracking" thing....everything I ship either USPS or UPS has tracking "built in" to the transaction... _________________
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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Miklo ¡Chale!
Joined: August 27, 2008 Posts: 2058 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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I edited my post above as to why I did it.
I did this mainly to root out thesamba window-shoppers. I would get many, daily... it got old.
It doesn't stop some... I'm not saying its not totally my fault. But hey, it was shipped... After that???
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so...how much was tracking?? |
Close to $50. _________________ ✠Miklo✠
'55 Type1 "Ozma"
'66 Type1 "Charlotte" RIP
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Dr OnHolliday wrote: |
As I remember it, lowriding was not one of the criteria that Adolf gave to Dr. Porsche... |
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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Paypal brings you the seller far more customers than a requirement for check/money order/cash. As a buyer if I see an ad that says "no Paypal" it means that I do not buy the item. |
Got to agree- "no paypal" is like bad feedback
One thing I did do with a big order was to "send money" Bank to bank- No fee and no questions- then it sends- That service for Wells Fargo believe is called "Quick pay" or something like that. It is a mutual communication between buyer and seller with the 2 banks in the middle- then you can add tracking and insurance to the money request- if they don't want to comply- deals off- _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69738 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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I haven't had this issue but tracking is to protect YOU, not the seller.
Especially when it's Paypal since they require proof of shipping (and delivery) by using that tracking #.
Since it was international though - As Erik said above, the customs # is usually the tracking and the package automatically has some minimum insurance on it. Probably not the value of a clock though, you have to pay for more than the standard amount.
So... what does the customs tracking # say if you plug it into http://usps.com ? _________________ How to Post Photos
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Miklo ¡Chale!
Joined: August 27, 2008 Posts: 2058 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Paypal claim help.... |
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The number at the top of the customs slip does nothing on the USPS site.
I'm going to head to the post office and see what I can do if I get off work at a decent time tomorrow.
If not i'll pay up, cut my losses, close my ads and call it a day.
I have other crap I have to deal with right now. I really have no time to waste for this BS.
This happened after work last Thursday. Lady said she didn't see me...
Thanks everone, i'll keep you posted. _________________ ✠Miklo✠
'55 Type1 "Ozma"
'66 Type1 "Charlotte" RIP
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