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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:19 pm    Post subject: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

Left one is temp II sensor for fuel injection. The right is a tin screw but the tin has been cut around it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

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Left one is temp II sensor for fuel injection. The right is a tin screw but the tin has been cut around it.


Thanx bunches. Since I am using a carburetor, I assume that I have to put in a sensor, or otherwise plug it up?

Do you happen to know what size and thread pattern the hole is? Are those 1mm threads?

Looks like it's M10 x 1mm.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

You don't need to plug them but you do want to put fasteners in them to hold the tin tight against the head. The left one is a 10x1mm thread which you may find in a drawer at your local hardware. An old TSII sensor will work as well.

A standard M6 bolt with work for the right hole with a fender washer large enough to span the cutout in the tin. You may need to saw or grind off a bit of one edge of your washer to get clearance.

You need to find something to plug that big unused hole in your tin as well as it will waste a ton of cooling air if left open.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

That big old hole is from a early oem temp sensor 2 location and you can buy the rubber piece that fits it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

I wonder if an electrical knockout plug would fit there?, those rubber plugs die an early death from the heat, steel would last forever.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

If I were to buy that sensor, like the one near the number three cylinder, could I convert it to use as a temperature gauge?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

Not really, yes it would show a rough idea of the temperature of that part of the head, but it wouldn't react fast and may never show what's happening at the combustion chamber where the action happens. It was just to tell the computer when the engine was warmed up, it won't provide a second by second account of when potential damage may happen.

1/8" NPT pipe fittings (like plugs for example) are really close to M10X1.0 and will thread in as well. Or use the male end of an old brake line, they are the correct thread and have a stepped up area you could put a washer under.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

Thanks again, everybody for the awesome insights.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

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I wonder if an electrical knockout plug would fit there?, those rubber plugs die an early death from the heat, steel would last forever.


It works well. That's what I used to fill unused holes in my tin. Just got cheap off the shelf black nylon knockout covers from my local hardware store.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

Or you could buy a correct stainless plug from Belmetric and not eff up the threads in your head. For very short money. Search drain plugs on their site. The Spanish heads have the temp sensor 2 hole drilled out on both sides. So you just need to plug the one side. Use copper anti seize on the plugged side. The head gets way to hot for rubber and the tin needs to be tight. The one you want uses a hex wench. It's the same thread pitch as the tempS2 with a wide head. If you can't locate it on their site. I can send you the link.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

At the very least plug them or else you'll have popping on high decel situations. Won't be detrimental but annoying.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

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At the very least plug them or else you'll have popping on high decel situations. Won't be detrimental but annoying.


the TsII hole is open on the back. It isn't internal. Just use anything that is 10mm x 1.0 or even stick some RTV in it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

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At the very least plug them or else you'll have popping on high decel situations. Won't be detrimental but annoying.


the TsII hole is open on the back. It isn't internal. Just use anything that is 10mm x 1.0 or even stick some RTV in it.


Have put several of the AMC heads on these engines and leaving them open (while not detrimental) will introduce under certain conditions 'popping under high decel'. Once plugged the popping ceases. The 10mmx1.0 bolts or RTV will work.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

udidwht wrote:
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At the very least plug them or else you'll have popping on high decel situations. Won't be detrimental but annoying.


the TsII hole is open on the back. It isn't internal. Just use anything that is 10mm x 1.0 or even stick some RTV in it.


Have put several of the AMC heads on these engines and leaving them open (while not detrimental) will introduce under certain conditions 'popping under high decel'. Once plugged the popping ceases. The 10mmx1.0 bolts or RTV will work.

Maybe someone can correct me but I think that would be true if they were air injection holes which they are not.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

SGKent wrote:
udidwht wrote:
SGKent wrote:
udidwht wrote:
At the very least plug them or else you'll have popping on high decel situations. Won't be detrimental but annoying.


the TsII hole is open on the back. It isn't internal. Just use anything that is 10mm x 1.0 or even stick some RTV in it.


Have put several of the AMC heads on these engines and leaving them open (while not detrimental) will introduce under certain conditions 'popping under high decel'. Once plugged the popping ceases. The 10mmx1.0 bolts or RTV will work.

Maybe someone can correct me but I think that would be true if they were air injection holes which they are not.


If they were air injection holes you would get the loud firing of an unmuffled exhaust plus lots of stink and heat in your engine compartment.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:19 am    Post subject: Re: What are these two holes on the heads? Reply with quote

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