Glue suggestion?

[jmranger]

Hello,

What glue would you suggest to reattach the vinyl/leatherette on the bottom of the passenger's side B-pillar (original fire extinguisher location)?

It's quite impossible now to do a good surface preparation on both the metal and the vinyl, and whatever I've tried (Lepage contact, 3M Super 77) turns to goo in hours or days, probably due to some kind of chemical reaction with prior glue.

What's next? Silicone?

Thanks,

JMR

[bluebus86]

exactly what I am dealing with. appliction of new adhesives have failed. what to remove the old adhesive with, without harming the material?

I have had no luck with any of the contact type adhesives, and I have tried several brands. it will hold tight for a short time, then peels back magically after a while, days or weeks later.

I think acetone might remove the glue, but it probably aint going to do the vinyl any good.
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[tschroeder0]

the 3M professional adhesive in a spray can is the best. Spray both sides, let the carrier fladh off for about 30 seconds, then stick it to the surface and tape it there for amcouple of days.

[bluebus86]

[Forthwithtx]

Somebody mentioned in another post on another subject that Xylene was a good solvent for the adhesive VW used on the interior coverings. Though he mentioned that it worked best if the adhesive wasn't allowed to be exposed to to UV for too long as it seemed to have a hardening effect on it. Can be had at Lowe's.
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[Terry Kay]

Time to watch some television.

Catch the new (pretty ) Loc-Tite ad.

They got some stuff that will glue anything together that displaces moisture, and is bullet proof.
You'd never get that vinyl away from the metal again--ever--
Plus it's ballistic drying time.

El Permanento.

Home Depot has it.
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[Steve M.]

You need an adhesive remover to clean the surface. 3M products work.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/Adhesive+Remover/N1833/C0171.oap
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[IdahoDoug]

I'm interested in a solution as well. I've tried several things that all failed with reasonable prep - not perfect as I couldn't fully remove it. Including the 3M professional adhesive, etc. Automotive interior heat is rough on things. I will look into the TV stuff.
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[Steve M.]

[jmranger]

Doug: could you share a bit more on what you tried so far?

Despite the numerous adhesives on the market, I feel that they all boil down to very few different basic chemicals. We have to find one that doesn't react with the residues of the original glue, since we won't be able to get it all out of the fibers backing of the vinyl.

That's why I'm thinking silicone. From what I read on various manufacturer's website, it sticks to metal and is stable at high temperature. But having sprained an ankle yesterday, I truly deserve to be called an armchair mechanic for now.

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/cntct_silicone/ov...ealant.htm
http://www.gorillatough.com/gorilla-sealant
https://www.permatex.com/products/adhesives-sealan...e-sealant/ (site currently not responding, but google cache version is here).

[djkeev]

You need the right adhesive.... This...... IS it!

Quotes from http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...p;start=80

[jmranger]

Update...

I ended up asking 3M technical support, and quickly got an amazingly detailed reply:

[Stephenmarklay]

I’m feeling lucky that my 85 did not have material there. Just metal.
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[Vanagator]

Future glue is what you need....I found some at Big Lots.

[Westified]

I used loctite vinyl, fabric and plastic adhesive with success for that spot. I did put a board that there with a clamp for several hours. It's still stuck after one year.
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[Terry Kay]

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[IdahoDoug]

JM,

Apologies for not checking in up there. I used a high end automotive contact cement, the 3M stuff and something else I can't recall. I once found a Vanagon in the u pull with a damaged headliner my color and cut out a big chunk. So, I had a tear or two here and there and glued carefully cut patches before I hosed the whole headliner down with an excellent vinyl dye. It looks really awesome - except where a couple patches let loose. Grrr. So if yours works, I will get those pieces cut from my big swatch for the corner of two windows where the issue happened and respray! Back to show-grade! Cough...
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