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ElkoT1
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Joined: June 01, 2016
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Location: Elko, NV
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 Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:13 am Post subject: 1967 Brakes |
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| I'm needing to a complete rebuild on my brake system. Wanting to stay drum are there any complete kits out there or do I have to piece it all together? Any recommendations ? |
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mrmdls
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Joined: April 27, 2013
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Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:28 am Post subject: Re: 1967 Brakes |
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I know of no complete kits available. But, do yourself a big favor and buy German parts wherever possible. Particularly, the wheel cylinders, master cylinder, and drums and also use quality blue brake line hoses running from the brake reservoir metal lines to the master cylinder.
A couple years ago, I had installed Euromax wheel cylinders (China) when I went thru my brake system. This spring I had the pleasure of doing my brakes again due a wheel cylinder failing on the front, along with a rear one leaking.
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VOLKSWAGNUT
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Joined: October 14, 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1967 Brakes |
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German.. eh' over rated.. but in most cases... are ok.. just not worth it to me.
Buy Napa, TRW or Beck Arnley LOCAL to you..
That way IF there is a problem it can be handled locally.
Wagner makes a decent brake shoe.
The main issues with the supposed cheap parts.. is the cheap manufacturing process.
There are keys to make parts better..
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One thing I've had to start doing over the years... clean "New" master and wheel cylinders BEFORE installation.
I know that sounds "Nutty" Wink
I buy most parts locally. Easy to find, no shipping, and has a warranty. Yes some of the quality is low...
For brake parts I try to buy Napa, Beck Arnley, or TRW when I can but sometimes.... cheap out.
Somewhere in the ....inexpensive (and expensive) brand brake manufacturing process, 2 things are lacking. 1 bore surface and 2 bore cleanliness.
When I disassemble new units I have found semi rough honed bores along with a gritty feeling. Occasionally rust..
Clean, lightly re hone, clean everything, assemble and lube with quality brake fluid. THAT"S IMPORTANT. Not all brake fluids are considered equal. Buy good name brand fluid.. I usually use GM brake fluid ... but recently tried some Kia fluid that had completely different smell and texture.. Almost oil like and yet still 100% DOT 3. Needless to say it lubed up the cylinders and cups very well. Castrol LMA brake fluid has proven to be good fluid as well.
After I started my pre cleaning 15-20 years ago.. I've yet to have an issue with new cylinders, failures and the inability to simply bleed.... . Before that.. I wasted lots of gas getting bad new parts swapped out..
FLUSH BRAKE FLUID EVERY 2 YEARS... Period.. |
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Cusser
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1967 Brakes |
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I'm in a similar "boat" with my 1970 which has sat for 23 years, and want to get running. I'm likely to buy all new brake parts including flexible lines from RockAuto, and go with Brazilian-made parts, for my intended usage it doesn't require German-made parts, and I feel my experience with these systems will provide good results. Would be easier if a complete re-do kit was available.
I've had good experience and results with Wagner brake shoes and pads on my other vehicles, primarily OEX series and Wagner Thermoquiet.
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mrmdls
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1967 Brakes |
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Prior to this year, I would have suggested using various makes of brake parts, from different manufacturer's and countries (heck I've got more Chinese parts on my 67 than I care to admit). However, after having to replace my wheel cylinders after 2 years of driving it got me thinking that quality is worth what you pay for.
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