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crankbait09 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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Out of the beetles that were made in the 1960's, which one ranks supreme, and why?
Curious to see what draws you to a specific year |
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hitest Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:58 am Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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No way to vote- your poll involves two completely different generations of a 60s beetle. To many of us here- three. _________________
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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crankbait09 Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2016 Posts: 1304 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:01 am Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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well, I was thinking that when people buy beetles, they have to be drawn to a specific year.....In my mind at least.
Maybe with me being new to the scene, I certainly don't think of generation this or generation that....I ponder specific years. That's just me I guess |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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crankbait09 wrote: |
well, I was thinking that when people buy beetles, they have to be drawn to a specific year.....In my mind at least.
Maybe with me being new to the scene, I certainly don't think of generation this or generation that....I ponder specific years. That's just me I guess |
I thought the poll odd myself. And figured the highlighted statement was the reason. Check the forum break down and you will see that most commonly, Beetles are broken down into Split Windows, Oval Windows, 58-67, 68+, and Super Beetles. Lumping 60-69 is sort of an odd grouping. Either include every year of Beetle or align your groupings more into the typical groups above. But asking which 60's Beetle is your favorite is odd. Do some more reading and figure out the culture grasshopper.
Regarding favorite year, I cant say I have one. As with most people I really like Ovals, but I know that most will be out of my reach price wise or if I can afford it will be a total lump of crap. Overall, I prefer 67 or older Beetles as I find them more ascetically pleasing. I can also afford them. I probably also gravitate more towards 63 or older as they had the cloth sunroofs which I find cool. I also like how the 61's had different color options for things like the steering columns, grab handles, seat frames, etc. As cool as these are though, I would love to have a nice Oval ragtop and couldn't care less which year. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine
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crankbait09 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:58 am Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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Sharp64 wrote: |
crankbait09 wrote: |
well, I was thinking that when people buy beetles, they have to be drawn to a specific year.....In my mind at least.
Maybe with me being new to the scene, I certainly don't think of generation this or generation that....I ponder specific years. That's just me I guess |
I thought the poll odd myself. And figured the highlighted statement was the reason. Check the forum break down and you will see that most commonly, Beetles are broken down into Split Windows, Oval Windows, 58-67, 68+, and Super Beetles. Lumping 60-69 is sort of an odd grouping. Either include every year of Beetle or align your groupings more into the typical groups above. But asking which 60's Beetle is your favorite is odd. Do some more reading and figure out the culture grasshopper. |
I see, thank you for the insight. Ya, I was thinking way to simple and straight forward.....I see how it's not. thanks again.
I would edit the poll but I can't do it.......If someone can delete the poll all together, even better |
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63 vwnotch Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 734 Location: Riverside,CA Econo Motors
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:13 am Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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being new to the scene... if I were in your shoes I'd look for a 69...Lots of good stuff there not only the year IRS suspension, 1600 mtr, 12V, perhaps easier to find a good driver, maybe less rust being fairly newer, easier to obtain body parts etc... good introduction into the air cooled scene....
happy hunting and Welcome to the forum !!!read the stickies here, lots of good buyer info on what to look for during inspection to make sure you get a solid example..... _________________ BUS WANTED: 13 window BUS any year considered.. |
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crankbait09 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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back when I was in high school, (1995), I had a 69 bug for a breif amount of time. It ran, barely and looked really rough. I had zero knowledge of bugs, and no clue where to go for information. I didn't have the internet at that time. Well, being in HS and lacking funds to keep it running, I sold it for $250. Fast forward to NOW.............I regret that decision.
When the time comes to purchasing one, I am hoping for a 1961-1966 beetle. Undecided on exact year. To me, it doesn't matter. I just want the early 60's.
I just purchased the highly recommended book "how to keep your volkswagen alive", about 10 minutes ago. I'm doing it right this time |
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63 vwnotch Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 734 Location: Riverside,CA Econo Motors
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:36 am Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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right on... we'll if you like the previous '67 and the years given I'd get a 66, so when you're cruising route 66 the nostalgia kicks in hard !!
my first beetle was a 68 factory sunroof.. a dime a dozen then in '88 but now not so much....especially in that condition _________________ BUS WANTED: 13 window BUS any year considered.. |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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Crankbait what is the favored crankbait?
My favorite bug is the ones I have in the driveway. On the newer models I would group 68~73 and the 74~79. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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crankbait09 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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qt1953 - ahhh, the favored crankbait of choice would be the Bandit series. 100% of the time I'm using black
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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I voted 1969, primarily because of the IRS transmission.
Since I've R&R'd both IRS and swing axles, I prefer IRS. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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'67 look the coolest but for a daily driver I would get the 69 because of the IRS. Then I would put the early fenders on it so it looks as cool as the '67. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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crankbait09 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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I see the 67 is getting the bulk of the votes.....Can anyone tell me why?
What would draw people to this year? I see racerdave commented on looks the coolest for a daily driver.......is there more to it than that? you really have me curious now |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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1967 was a one year only design. They have a ton of one year only parts that make it stand out. It also was the first year for 12 volt. I have one, you can see my thread in my signature.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187814 Here's a huge thread about '67 stuff. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
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He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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63 vwnotch Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 734 Location: Riverside,CA Econo Motors
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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one year only parts, 12V, old metal dash
Edit: 67ctbug beat me to it _________________ BUS WANTED: 13 window BUS any year considered..
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crankbait09 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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After looking at that thread, I see why it stands out. Wouldn't that also mean, parts will be harder to find? Almost impossible to restore?
I'll check out your signature |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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They aren't impossible to restore and parts aren't too hard to come by. They may be a little harder then finding parts for other years, but that's why it's unique. The parts are a little bit more expensive, but they are being reproduced like most other parts for any other beetle. Mine is still in restoration at the moment. It was the final year for the "classic" beetle, and in my opinion is the best year. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'73 Dodge W200
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
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...or the PO envied the terrorists' bus in "Back to the Future". |
mukluk wrote: |
He's fine, just waiting for the dragon in winklepickers to move out of his lane. |
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gt1953 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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Well the 67 does have unique one year only parts. I get it. My 68 type one standard has very similar items in the chassis that are also on the 67. Like the Z-bar. Opps 2 year part. My 73 type one standard has one yr only stuff also and as I have discovered some 72 items on it. Must have been in the parts bin at the time of assembly. Had a 67 many last century. Sold it. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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Take the 67 getting more votes with a grain of salt. Understand that 67 was sort of the transition from the older generation to the newer one. 67 is somewhat unique in that matter. Not a lot of differences in 60-66 so they are maybe considered more interchangeable? _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: What year of the beetle stands out the most? |
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I own a 67 and a 69. I like them both but I prefer the 67. It still has the towell rail bumpers which I think look great. It has the steel dash. Ball joint front ends started in 66 so the 67 has them as well which I prefer over kingpins. I think the 30-1 Solex carb was the best that came on bugs.
The 67's are just a solidly built bug. It's hard to articulate why they feel different than the 68+ bugs. Parts are not difficult to find for them. They made like 1 million 67 bugs so used parts are still plentiful. I've never not found something I needed in used condition.
I think it comes down to 67's are the last link to the early bugs before VW started to add all the other things to meet smog, safety and other needs of the day. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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