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Jon Schmid
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 Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:46 am Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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Logistics is going to prevent games to be scheduled for top matches.
It isn't just a matter of moving game times let alone the day  |
If you follow college football, especially the SEC, much, then you hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer in describing what ended up having to be done to reschedule the Florida/LSU game because of Hurricane Matthew (turns out they didn't need to postpone the game in the first place, but that's a whole another story). It was (and is--they finally play Saturday) a total clusterf***. |
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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| Jon Schmid wrote: |
| 60ragtop wrote: |
Logistics is going to prevent games to be scheduled for top matches.
It isn't just a matter of moving game times let alone the day |
If you follow college football, especially the SEC, much, then you hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer in describing what ended up having to be done to reschedule the Florida/LSU game because of Hurricane Matthew (turns out they didn't need to postpone the game in the first place, but that's a whole another story). It was (and is--they finally play Saturday) a total clusterf***. |
And for that reason they decided to go ahead & play the NC state game which ultimately was the cause of a flood related death of a fan returning from the game.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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Fantasy Football is down over 50%, more towards 75% I heard, that is a big reason for declined ratings. Also, election coverage was taking viewers. Some of the games big stars were not there, Tom Brady suspended, Tony Romo out, Russell Wilson playing like sh*t, Andrew Luck running for his life etc....
A lot of teams are not fun to watch, 3 yard pass, 2 yard pass....no one throwing down field. Football is suffering from bigger, stronger, faster! Look at some of these guys, big guys running like a running back.
If you watched Seattle/New England Sunday, seemed like Seattle had 15 players on defense, they were everywhere.
Roger Goodell is a piece of work too. He is a money maker for the league, but spending $22 million, yes $22 fu&*n million to investigate Tom Brady for ball air pressure, resulting in, "he likely knew something." That has to turn people off.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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| I just watch the University of Alabama play. The level of play is almost as good, Coach Saban would strangle any player that mouthed off or disrespected the flag, and my son went there. Who needs the NFL? |
With this, what makes college football so great? Sounds like the powerful controlling the powerless. Saban, I believe, is the one that recruited kids, then left that University, correct? So he can just up and leave, students can not. Not sure I want a coach strangling my child cause of basic American rights.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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| Jon Schmid wrote: |
| I just watch the University of Alabama play. The level of play is almost as good, Coach Saban would strangle any player that mouthed off or disrespected the flag, and my son went there. Who needs the NFL? |
With this, what makes college football so great? Sounds like the powerful controlling the powerless. Saban, I believe, is the one that recruited kids, then left that University, correct? So he can just up and leave, students can not. Not sure I want a coach strangling my child cause of basic American rights. |
Actually, yes, the students can leave.
Those people are playing a game as a JOB, yes even at a college level, their tuition is the pay. Employers have (some stricter than others) sets of rules, codes of conduct, & appearance/uniform requirements that must be followed. If you don't want to follow the rules defined by the employer, then you should be fired.
The first time one of those overpaid, prima donnas broke the rules, the league should have fined the ever loving crap out of the individual. The second infraction should have resulted in a breach of contract & the individual/s should have been let go & not been allowed back into the league for any team. They still have their basic American rights, as a broke burger flipper.
I personally think it's hilarious that they are choosing to kneel down. I'm surprised no one has pointed out the irony in that gesture.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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I'll stick with the CFL, it doesn't suffer from any of the issues mentioned here, playoffs just started last week.
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Jon Schmid
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:12 am Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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| I just watch the University of Alabama play. The level of play is almost as good, Coach Saban would strangle any player that mouthed off or disrespected the flag, and my son went there. Who needs the NFL? |
With this, what makes college football so great? Sounds like the powerful controlling the powerless. Saban, I believe, is the one that recruited kids, then left that University, correct? So he can just up and leave, students can not. Not sure I want a coach strangling my child cause of basic American rights. |
I think maybe you're misunderstanding my point. Yes, coaches leave schools voluntarily for other opportunities. Saban, Carroll, Harbaugh, Meyer, the list goes on and on. But players leave too--it's called transferring. Alabama lost its #2 QB and a starting DB this year due to transfers. As for strangling rights, he is teaching these kids to respect their school, respect the game and their opponents, and above all respect themselves. That's all society needs, more trash talking mouthy self centered jerks. Now get off my lawn. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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The competition is lousy this year. Look at this chart in today's NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/nfl...l&_r=0
When the Patriots have a 94% chance of making the playoffs, and the other teams in their division basically don't have a prayer (Dolphins 25%, Bills 14%, Jets 1%) who cares about the games.
And it's not just the Patriots. Chiefs are at 88%, Cowboys 99%, Seahawks 91%, and the Falcons are at 78%--so much for the old "any team on any given Sunday nonsense."
Compare that with College where 3 of the top 4 teams lost last week. College is where it's at this year. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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| Long-roofs wrote: |
| Jon Schmid wrote: |
| I just watch the University of Alabama play. The level of play is almost as good, Coach Saban would strangle any player that mouthed off or disrespected the flag, and my son went there. Who needs the NFL? |
With this, what makes college football so great? Sounds like the powerful controlling the powerless. Saban, I believe, is the one that recruited kids, then left that University, correct? So he can just up and leave, students can not. Not sure I want a coach strangling my child cause of basic American rights. |
Actually, yes, the students can leave.
Those people are playing a game as a JOB, yes even at a college level, their tuition is the pay. Employers have (some stricter than others) sets of rules, codes of conduct, & appearance/uniform requirements that must be followed. If you don't want to follow the rules defined by the employer, then you should be fired.
The first time one of those overpaid, prima donnas broke the rules, the league should have fined the ever loving crap out of the individual. The second infraction should have resulted in a breach of contract & the individual/s should have been let go & not been allowed back into the league for any team. They still have their basic American rights, as a broke burger flipper.
I personally think it's hilarious that they are choosing to kneel down. I'm surprised no one has pointed out the irony in that gesture. |
I understand students/players can leave a university, but they have to sit a year, unless something has changed. A coach can recruit players, then leave, that coach sometimes is the only reason a player goes to that school.
Tuition is not always enough for players, which by the way, can not have a job while playing. So where does spending/bill money come from? Sure, school is covered, I understand that. I am talking some very wealthy, tax exempt universities making train loads of money off folks beating themselves silly, free labor. Look at what Bowl games and March Madness makes.
I am more interested in sending a little to players, does the top have to have it all!
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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Im pretty sure that a lot of people that have had to pay their or their kids way through these colleges would think that an athletics scholarship was pretty generous by itself.
Perhaps the better idea is to eliminate the sports aspect from college so the people could concentrate on a degree vs a career in sports & therefore eliminate the grossly overpaid staff & overfunded programs.
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Jon Schmid
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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Im pretty sure that a lot of people that have had to pay their or their kids way through these colleges would think that an athletics scholarship was pretty generous by itself.
Perhaps the better idea is to eliminate the sports aspect from college so the people could concentrate on a degree vs a career in sports & therefore eliminate the grossly overpaid staff & overfunded programs. |
I had my two kids go through college. One on an academic scholarship, the other we had to pay for. Those scholarships, especially if the student is living on campus, are worth a lot of $$$. Trust me. I agree with the overfunded part as only a handful of collegiate athletic programs actually make money and the overwhelming source of income is from football--ticket sales but mainly TV revenue. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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| More likely was the circus of a presidential race, combined with constant play stoppages. It's not like the anthem is all of a sudden of primary importance to sports fans because a couple guys won't stand up for it. It's a nice headline maybe, but a BS story in my book. |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: NFL ratings |
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One thing to remember about TNF, AFAIK all the teams must play a Thursday night game to make it fair for all the teams, that's why it can be tough to schedule top wanted match ups that night and why there are losing teams playing.
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