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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Pinetops wrote:
The more pictures the better as far as I'm concerned. Cool

I want to try my hand at straightening and painting my bumpers in the near future, yours look good from here.


Here's what they looked like to start off with:

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Not too bad, but the guards were totally beat in. Absolutely worth every penny for me to have someone else do these.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

I don't blame you, that's some rough work for sure. They came out nice. Luckily my front blade is mostly straight. The rear will take some convincing, and the guards are all dented.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Would anyone do me a huge favor and measure the distance the dogleg extends forward from the B pillar on the very bottom? A PO cut mine and I'd like to return it to stock.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

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Would anyone do me a huge favor and measure the distance the dogleg extends forward from the B pillar on the very bottom? A PO cut mine and I'd like to return it to stock.


Problem is that area is all curves and no straight edge....

Could cut a cardboard piece and get you a tracing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

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ernstben wrote:
Would anyone do me a huge favor and measure the distance the dogleg extends forward from the B pillar on the very bottom? A PO cut mine and I'd like to return it to stock.


Problem is that area is all curves and no straight edge....

Could cut a cardboard piece and get you a tracing.


For some reason they only cut away the bottom 4 inches or so. If I can get width of the dogleg on the very bottom, I think I can continue the curve from where they stopped cutting well enough.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

ernstben wrote:

For some reason they only cut away the bottom 4 inches or so. If I can get width of the dogleg on the very bottom, I think I can continue the curve from where they stopped cutting well enough.


Understood, but again it is all curves in that lower area. At best could measure down from the door opening above and tell you where the DL curve hits say 3" & 6" from the rear seam to "A" pillar, to get a general where it goes if you have a donor piece.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Here you can see in this close up the bottom line of that area is angled upwards, then hits a radius about 3/4" and that ends in the forward curve that goes up and over the tire.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

So, could trace out a template if you need. Will mark it for where the forward lip/flange starts out.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Oh! More complicated than I thought. Ok... will have to noodle on that one for a while. As you say, best would be to make a cardboard copy of that from a good bus. The rest of the doglegs are in good shape, so I can't bring myself to order new ones or even patch panels from the classifieds for such a small area...

Thanks for the picture, that helps a bunch!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Eric&Barb wrote:
So, could trace out a template if you need. Will mark it for where the forward lip/flange starts out.


That would be really helpful!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Pmail us your address so we can send the tracing to you.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Started doing a little exploratory cutting around the rocker and had to stop when it started to get a little overwhelming:

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I was hoping to get by without having to tear into the B pillar and the top hat sections, but I think that's inevitable now that I've seen the extent of the rust.

Oh well... to recover from that, I've started re-paneling her sides:

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Welded up some pinholes and cracks on the bottom of a cargo door:

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Started de-crustifying the parcel tray:

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And repaired the cut-out radio section:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Ive replaced cut windows in a panel before.. major work. But can be done nice looks good on what you have done already.. keep in mind there is a slight bend to that panel. I made a template of the curve and had my pre cut panels rolled in a large slip roll at a local HVAC shop that way the panel was relaxed in the same shape of the curve of the body. Really helped to get a nice result when finished.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

69vwcarl wrote:
Ive replaced cut windows in a panel before.. major work. But can be done nice looks good on what you have done already.. keep in mind there is a slight bend to that panel. I made a template of the curve and had my pre cut panels rolled in a large slip roll at a local HVAC shop that way the panel was relaxed in the same shape of the curve of the body. Really helped to get a nice result when finished.


I was planning on taking it to a shop to get them bent, but the welder guy I buy shielding gas from took a look at things and suggested that I slowly bend them over a large cylinder until they're close enough. Now that I've got two under my belt, I'd say that they're not perfect but fairly close. Definitely close enough to match the rest of the vehicle with some filler work I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

It's hard to get outside with winter still hanging around, but I was able to get a couple things done today. I added some 3-point seat belt mounting points in the cab area:

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and repaired this weird rust-through area in the rear:

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I also finished up cleaning up the headlight buckets. They were a fun indoor, stay warm, activity this winter. I'm going to run the original chrome rings for the time being and then more than likely upgrade at some point in the future to some new ones from WW:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

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I'm going to run the original chrome rings for the time being and then more than likely upgrade at some point in the future to some new ones from WW

If those are original VW they are far superior to WW unless WW has upgraded their rings. Yours are chromed brass and will never rust. They will get bad looking on the chrome after awhile but can be rechromed if you want. The WW ones are chromed steel and rust quickly. Even though they replace the rusty ones with new ones those will rust too. Doing a headlight ring correctly is like rebuilding an engine almost so replacing rusty by replacing rusty is not even worth it. Put a magnet on your rings and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

She's a panel again! Well, half of her:

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Also, I picked up a rebuilt 40hp today as well. Out with the old, in with the new:

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Cutting out rust from this area was intimidating and sort of overwhelming. Now that I'm back to solid metal, I think I'm ready to build things up again:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

I had to drill out the screws holding the engine lid hinges on, so I had to do some surgery to replace the plates:

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Cut out the swiss cheese where something scraped along the passenger's side door:

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On a way more interesting note, I think I've kind of settled on some colors. I was going to go for a stock grey look, but I think I'm starting to drift toward something a little darker. I sprayed the vent wing swooshes what would be the body color and the nose emblem the accent color:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

Completed some rust repair on the rocker area. First some stuff to cut out:

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And then skipping ahead a couple days:

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I'm slowly making it to the end of my list of broken off fasteners to repair:

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Hand brushed some paint on the bumpers to give myself some thickness to sand:

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And started paneling up the other side:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben's '59 Panel Project Reply with quote

While I have the beam out of the bus, I decided to replace the center pin bushings:

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Post-reaming, but pre-cleaning:

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Also, behold! A cargo floor and rocker:

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