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GLHTurbo Samba Member
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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Correct me if Im wrong.. but isn't the tree that bit the dust In Calaveras California ... .. a copy of the original in Yosemite which fell in 69 ish??
If so.. the kool magazine shot above.. should be the Yosemite tree..
Either way.. a bucket list item.. I wont get to do..
On to the next..
Or..
Somebody start carving another..
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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That's sad, I bet they'll make another though. _________________ '67 Beetle L41
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lonotch Samba Padrino
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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67ctbug wrote: |
That's sad, I bet they'll make another though. |
Not with all the tree huggers around here and the time it will take just to get a permit to do it. _________________ It's not about the window, it's about the people.
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e&m_ghia Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2011 Posts: 418 Location: NoVA
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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I was trying to find the dates for the two big-old trees mentioned above, and happened on this... There are 3 others! Just not as big, but at least one is apparently perfect for a VW - note the bus pic:
http://redwoods.info/showrecord.asp?id=2464 |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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I remember gong through it when I was a kid....long ago. Ive never been to yosemite, but as I recall...I lived in calaverus area...I think.....but... that was long ago. and I was kinda small when I went through it...witch may be why the tree looked so big |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:31 am Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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There was a piece on NPR yesterday with someone from the national park service speaking..
Whike she noted that hacming into an old growth redwood like that would never happen again in this day and age......it did serve an excellent purpose back when it was originally done.
It was done by the national parks service on both trees. The original fell as noted in 1969....and was about 100 miles away from this one.
They were done as tourist attractions back in the day when the national parks did not have enough funding or interest among the population. These toudist attractions helped to not only expand the interest in the parks....they greatly expanded traffic and funding....so even though the naturalists gnash their teeth when they see the pictures of these trees......they served a valuable purpose far greater than their loss. Ray |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:53 am Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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raygreenwood wrote: |
There was a piece on NPR yesterday with someone from the national park service speaking..
While she noted that hacking into an old growth redwood like that would never happen again in this day and age..... |
Im sure it will eventually come out.. the drive-thru trees would have still been standing.. if they were never altered..
Buncha Freakin Tree Huggin' Hippies..
It's nature... good luck saving yourself.... let alone the trees there lady..
On a lighter note.. One from Leggett, California...
Back on my bucket list...
http://www.drivethrutree.com/
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Jon Schmid Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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The Pioneer Cabin Tree that fell yesterday in Calaveras County apparently was chosen by the then landowner in the late 1800's for a tunnel cut because it already had a burn scar. I guess those trees are already pretty old to be big enough to accommodate a tunnel and with the drought we've been having and all, and the fact that the tree was allegedly already mostly dead, to me it's no surprise it fell in the storm. Too bad, I would have liked to have seen it. |
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67ctbug Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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Yay! There are still more! _________________ '67 Beetle L41
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awreed Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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How much did they charge to drive through that thing? |
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
Im sure it will eventually come out.. the drive-thru trees would have still been standing.. if they were never altered.. |
Not true. Giant sequoia trees only have a root base going down about 6-20 feet. So this shallow root system has to counter balance a 300 foot tall 2 million pound tree. Now you factor in the fact it's been raining here in CA for well over a week now. The ground has become extremely soft. Combine that with the crazy wind this last storm brought and the shallow root base simply couldn't hold the tree any longer. There's also been countless mudslides out here in CA as well because of the rain. _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
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VWsArent4Hippies Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:26 am Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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I did that one in September, it was awesome
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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Cali_Army_Guy wrote: |
VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
Im sure it will eventually come out.. the drive-thru trees would have still been standing.. if they were never altered.. |
Not true. Giant sequoia trees only have a root base going down about 6-20 feet. So this shallow root system has to counter balance a 300 foot tall 2 million pound tree. Now you factor in the fact it's been raining here in CA for well over a week now. The ground has become extremely soft. Combine that with the crazy wind this last storm brought and the shallow root base simply couldn't hold the tree any longer. There's also been countless mudslides out here in CA as well because of the rain. |
Yes.. I know.. .. twas just a sly joke ..
Then there shouldn't be any reason not to start hacking to create another..
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Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
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raygreenwood Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:38 am Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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The point made by the piece on NPR.....was that the funding and attention to the national forests....these National forests in particuoar....was so poor and so many people way back then didn't have any idea what was there for them to experience.....not like they would see it on the news or look it up on the internet ......the the sacrifice of a few trees to make a tourist attraction....was deemed a minor loss.
And.....it was a minor loss. The PR campaigns for the national forests and parks systems over the years made them a jewel in the crown of American national resources. It did more good than the loss of a handful of trees did.
You do know dont you.....that Sequoyah and redwood trees in these forests fall every year.
Aside from the root issues mentioned.....the model is that even if part of he tree dies.....and sometimes many years ago.....usually in the branch junctions very high up...water pools. It rots a section of the trunk. It fills with water in the rains...makes an eco system for a huge range of wildlife....and while that is great....it leads to the hollowing out of the whole and kills the structural support. It falls....sometimes taking out a live tree or two next to it.
Its sad that the tunnel trees eventually fall because its one more piece of history gone....but thats the only reason its sad. Its one tree of hundreds of thousands that have thrived due to the publicity, management and funding these hacked up trees provided.
No...it really does not need to be replaced by another hacked up tree.....because its not necessary to create interest in the national forest system. Its at an all time high. Ray |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:40 am Post subject: Re: RIP Tunnel Tree |
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raygreenwood wrote: |
.....that Sequoya and redwood trees in these forests fall every year.
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But !! .. did anybody hear them??.. ??
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No...it really does not need to be replaced by another hacked up tree.....because its not necessary to create interest in the national forest system. Its at an all time high. Ray |
If you build it.. they will come..
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