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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7468 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:53 pm Post subject: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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I watched as flames started coming out from under this Rabbit while driver drove in the left lane. Driver noticed, pulled over, I followed, emptied my fire extinguisher in various spots where flames were coming out, driver exclaimed frustration at just having filled it up with gas (doubling its value?), I called 911 (driver's phone battery was dead), I drove away as he awaited the fire department.
Learnings: VWs burn on Orillia Rd. (this is the second VW in six months I saw burn on Orillia Rd in Kent, WA); I'm replacing my single fire extinguisher with two that are at least twice the size.
Vanagon content: my Vanagon dash did not melt during the mayhem!
_________________ - Jim
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10250 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Bummer looked like a nice Wabbit! _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7756 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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jimf909 wrote: |
...I'm replacing my single fire extinguisher with two that are at least twice the size... |
So...what size did you have and what do you recommend? _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6832 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Fried rabbit is pretty good eats!
I am assuming your single Fire Extinguisher put it out? Good on you. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
There are seven days in a week. Someday is not one of them. |
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7468 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Class 5-B, US CG, 2 lbs 11 oz, type B:C size 1...
That's what the label says. I have nearly zero knowledge about fire extinguishers other than to buy them and install them where they'd seem to be handy. Something bigger is what I'll get. It seems that it can take a while to put out an engine fire and some backup would be helpful. There has been a few threads here that I'll review to get more info.
While I was there, the flames went from several feet high to just smoke but the fire was not out. The driver retreated to 50 yards away and was chatting with an equipment operator in a nearby field. I had an engagement to keep and departed.
It was a Rabbit in decent condition. Sad to see it go.
The previous time I saw a Beetle burning on this road I did not have a fire extinguisher in my car. I've since added one just so it would be handy. _________________ - Jim
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Do not get killed, do not kill others.
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:55 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Decent condition Rabbits have actually been going up in value. At this point a clean straight good condition 1.6 diesel rabbit will actually sell for a similar amount or possibly more than a similar condition Mk4 TDI Golf. |
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Team WorldTour Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 2426 Location: Der Vaterland
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:09 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Guess he didn't 'change his fuel lines'.......
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unibagel Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2004 Posts: 529 Location: Bflo, NY
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:09 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Judging by the small tail lights, that's an old one. Maybe a swallow tail? |
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:44 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Judging by the tail, it's not a swallow tail.
I need to find out the owner, I could use a roof panel. PM me if you should know the owner. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22665 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:29 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Im still in therapy from working on a MK1 1976 carb Rabbit
What a POS that was. _________________ .ssS! |
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crsmp5 Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2013 Posts: 301 Location: ohio
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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early westy... rear markers/doorpanel give that away...
id say carb conversion.. as i do not think 79/80 had carbs.. cis is other side of hood for gas fire.. along with charcole canister... i guess the "expansion tank" line, its in passengers fender, could have been damaged, and if topped off full.. it could spray timing belt area with gas... but again.. if converted to carb.. was mostlikely manuplated and left open to underhood.. _________________ [url=http://cdn2.driiive.com/7037.jpg]Click to view image[/url] |
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7468 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Butcher wrote: |
Judging by the tail, it's not a swallow tail.
I need to find out the owner, I could use a roof panel. PM me if you should know the owner. |
It's still on the side of the road tonight. It'll be towed soon. I'll see if I can get the plate # tomorrow. _________________ - Jim
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Do not get killed, do not kill others.
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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buspor63 Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2005 Posts: 1179 Location: Knoxville,TN Where America stops for gas
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:25 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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It looks like it has the big rear side markers, but the small rear tail lights. That narrows it down to a '79-'80 Pa. built car. _________________ Imagine that, theres not an "h" in either Westfalia or Syncro? |
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crsmp5 Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2013 Posts: 301 Location: ohio
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Butcher Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2015 Posts: 1285 Location: Right Here
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:53 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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I drove by it both ways, it has square headlamps. The windshield forward is cooked.
But it has a full tank of gas. |
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Blade3562 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2012 Posts: 7 Location: Hilo, HI
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Easy fix, cabriolet front clip, weld firewall forward and inner fenders etc. Bummer, was a clean 1980 (Inteior color is a giveaway)
This has happened about 3 or 4 times these past few months. Check your fuel lines.
It very well could be CIS, the main fuel lines run along the firewall behind the header. They tend to rust vibrate and break of old age. Mine did on my '84 Jetta behind the steering column.
The other option is the evap canister in the right front fender. When he filled it he may have overfilled it and the canister filled then bam fire. This is the most likely issue. Both carb and CIS cars had this. |
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7468 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:26 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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As of last night it was still there, rocks behind the back wheels. Looks like the hood was pried open at some point. _________________ - Jim
Abscate wrote: |
Do not get killed, do not kill others.
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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ach60 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2001 Posts: 4139 Location: Santa Maria
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:02 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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Firemen usually are not respectful of OG metal, they just want to get to the fire. _________________ Good Luck
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Butcher Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:22 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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I've seen firemen cause more damage than the fire. |
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scottyrocks Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:00 am Post subject: Re: "I just filled it up w/gas!" (Rabbit MK1 fire)... |
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crsmp5 wrote: |
early westy... rear markers/doorpanel give that away...
id say carb conversion.. as i do not think 79/80 had carbs.. |
I had a '79. It had FI. |
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