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ach60 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2001 Posts: 4139 Location: Santa Maria
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:13 pm Post subject: 1.4 to 1 rockers and a Stock cam question |
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I was reading what turned out to be a old thread, and I saw a post I have some questions on about using 1.4 to 1 rockers with a stock cam:
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I built a 88x69 with a "stock" short block (other than c/w crank, light flywheel with an aluminium pressure plate), I didn't even bore the case. Along with ported heads, 1.4 rockers (stock cam), 8.6:1, dual Solex 40PII, etc. It was an awesome little engine. Revved quick, idled smooth, pulled to 5,500 and got awesome mileage. It was an expensive engine for only 75-80hp though |
My question is 1.4 to 1 rockers on a stock cam.
Is that high a ratio going to kill the case & cam?
Is the dynamic compression ratio going to be higher than 8.6 to 1 because of the design of stock cam? _________________ Good Luck
Al |
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 4343 Location: Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: 1.4 to 1 rockers and a Stock cam question |
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No, it will definitely not. The total lift is under .400". Use just a single high rev spring. If you want a harder camshaft, use Engle's new stock cam.
The max normal compression on a stock cam with dual 2-barrel carbs should be no more than about 8.3:1 on 91 octane. Add 1.4 rockers, and the duration at .050" increases a bit. It should allow for 8.6:1 on 91 octane. |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:01 am Post subject: Re: 1.4 to 1 rockers and a Stock cam question |
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If you are concerned, use the 1.25 rockers. Contrary to some comments, I have found a substantial performance improvement when used in conjunction with improved carburation and exhaust. Has been part of my standard mild 1600 upgrade for several years. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
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mikaelh Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2016 Posts: 25 Location: sweden
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:55 am Post subject: Re: 1.4 to 1 rockers and a Stock cam question |
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1:4 rockers works fine with stock cam,even berg suggest it on his website.
i use it to on an engine i build now. |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7221 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1.4 to 1 rockers and a Stock cam question |
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Just remember to correct the CR as it will result in some bleed off of dcr. 8,3 is good for medium fuel.
T |
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5364 Location: Lefty, CA
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