VW Kafer KDF-Wagen motor 1941-1945

[KDF 37]

I need year identification for this motor from 1941 to 1945.

[Erik G]

better off here : http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewforum.php?f=35

looks early industrial to me
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[sgmalt46]

1944 industrial motor . maybe used as a pump or generator? never seen a 6-
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[usariemen]

The 6- is wartime industrial engine.
Post war it became 122-
I once found a 1944 engine with star6- number and the magneto ignition as well.
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[usariemen]

They where used just as at post war times.
Mostly on water pumps I guess.
But also on quite several other occations.
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[splitjunkie]

Probably out of a V2 Rocket Erector/Trailor.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=474490&postorder=desc

http://www.v2rocket.com/start/others/usafm-v2.html
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[sgmalt46]

there is no telling by the number what is was used for. they didn't keep records like that. it could be anything. it does look like the motor in that pic though. if that helps
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[kdfkid]

Hi,
if you know better then show us the list - you will be the first since the war that found it. Generations of VW and KDF collector did find something like this ,....

[Bruce]

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[EverettB]

[usariemen]

I do not exactely know when the motor code was changed.
The engine I once had was made in 1944.
It had the star and 6-... prefix. so I researched and found that those where the industrial engines during war time. Like the kubel with star and 2- ...
or the swimmer with star 7- ... and so on.
They can not have used on that system long after war.
When exactely the 122- ... code was introduced I do not know.
In the first post war years they may have made very few of those industrial versions.
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[Blue Baron]

[KDF 37]

My Engine Has 120/17 ( not 122/17). 1.13L 25h.p this engine has been removed from commandeurwagen in 1945 that was captured by Soviet troops near Berlin. The front of the car was crushed by a Soviet tank.

[GArBa]

a way to know the story of that engine would be to research what companies used those engines on their equipment (Ziegler, maybe?) and hope their wartime records didn't got lost or destroyed. But I don't think a "link" with such information could exist; one would have to contact them or go to the actual places and look at the paper records.
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