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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:01 pm Post subject: Muffler part name |
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With my heater boxes back on, I'm relooking at the poor fitment of the left heater plenum-like thingy on this Dansk muffler.
I've read several posts about these Dansk/JP mufflers and one fix was to put on OG plenums from the prior muffler. However, in my case that was long gone. So I want to put a WTB ad for this thingy and wondering what the correct name for it would be.
Thanks!
PS: If you have an OG one avail, please PM me.
Byas
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24757 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Where did you get that clamp??
Dump it and get a real VW one.
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8700 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Whatever it is called, It is only sheet metal. You can bend/twist it to make it fit better ... or at least that's what I always do. _________________ Brian
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24757 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Personally have called them heater muffler bubbles. Not a part that is separately described in the parts manual. Just have good images of what you are looking for in the ad. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24757 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Q-Dog wrote: |
Whatever it is called, It is only sheet metal. You can bend/twist it to make it fit better ... or at least that's what I always do. |
Have had a few cheap mufflers that required two or so hours of cutting and welding so the tubes that go up through the rear tin would work properly. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Yes, on the lookout for anOG clamp as well. Or failing that - a new repro. |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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bnam wrote: |
With my heater boxes back on, I'm relooking at the poor fitment of the left heater plenum-like thingy on this Dansk muffler.
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Been there done that!! Exact same issue with the Dansk:
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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I call the muffler kidneys. Some people remove their old kidneys and reattach them to those Dansk mufflers. The fresh air hoses are also hard to line up on some.
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Simple repair...open a can of beans, eat the beans now cut the can with your tin snips, don't have tin snips go get some. Put cut can around the gap and then ad the clamp...problem solved. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3328 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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What he said , Frozen orange juice cans were click and clacks prefered tin stock for exhaust repair . _________________ "Albatross"! |
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olspeed Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2008 Posts: 489 Location: In the shadow of Denali, I still don't give a damn how they do it outside
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Maybe a piece of sheet metal from your local home improvement store. _________________ 66- Ghia
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Yes, have back up bandaid solutions lined up. But would really like to get a nice OG connecting chamber and clamp. |
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SBD Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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I've heard them called pre-heater boxes. I'd like to have a set to try attaching to my header.
Could you maybe stick a large, close-fitting socket into the lower pipe and pry it into better alignment with the heater box? Big sockets are usually cheap at the pawn shop if you don't have one. _________________ "Just $99 down and $64 a month for 36 months buys you a brand new Volkswagen Beetle!"
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gt1953 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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I like the click and clack idea. I mean the rigged repair is done you will have heat till you really get after the repair. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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ROCKOROD71 Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2012 Posts: 2770 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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gt1953 wrote: |
I like the click and clack idea. I mean the rigged repair is done you will have heat till you really get after the repair. |
Click and Clack, yes. To OP if you don't know those were the Tappet brothers, hosts of a weekly call-in show on cars where green car people would call in and mimic the sound their car was making and have these knuckleheads diagnose it on air. True quality entertainment
Anyhow, I agree. I used Aluminum tape on one of those in the past. Also, a beer can cut to size, wrapped around the pipe then secured using the stock clamp.
This very question comes up every so often, I recall in an older thread (couple years ago?) someone had sourced a wider clamp, wider even than the OG VW one, that seemed to cover the gap well. Might try looking at a plumbing supply or HVAC shop for something suitable. _________________ 1971 STD BEETLE- DD-1st car, 1st love. keepin' it stock! 1600DP, Solex 34-3 Mexi Bosch SVDA Dist NOW w/POINTS
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thomas. Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2010 Posts: 1291 Location: South West (Pa.)
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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I was thinking of eliminating the sheet metal pre heater and going with these from cip1. It seems like you would get more air going through without that pipe there as an obstruction. Seems a little pricey for me though since I have gas heat.
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C31-255-165-CSP |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24757 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Those will only work if you are running a header type muffler with the exhaust pipes well out of the way from under the tin holes. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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thomas. Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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I realize that, but I figure there's always a way if motivated. |
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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Loved Click and Clack on Sundays 10am on KXJZ Cap Public radio.
@SBD -- had the same thought and looked at my sockets to see what fits tight.
I can make the current setup work with a bandaid solution. Not worried about that.
I've posted an ad
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2025695
and have one response so far -- so fingers crossed.
I've also seen a NOS Ernst muffler for about $200 shipped to India.
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green1303 Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2014 Posts: 748 Location: Alexandria, VA
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Muffler part name |
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This aftermarket clamp is wider than the original German ones, helping to fill the gap between a JP Group muffler and a heater box.
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