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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:41 pm    Post subject: Something some where went WRONG!!! Reply with quote

I got the tranny Temp installed and noticed a couple of things...

1) My tires are rubbing the Spring Plate.

2) I have toe out.

So now how do I fix this?

1) New narrower rear tires?

2) Long Tubes in the rear?

Help I'm seriously stumped now. Rizzag or NAES HELP!!! Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a set of short axles on the tranny. You will need long axles to fit right.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what size tires are you running in the rear now?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're long axles they came off a long axle tranny.

I'm running 195-60-15's in the rear right now. Funny thing I pushed the bus back in the garage and the rear settled in and would you know it's not rubbing and I don't have nearly as much toe out.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DubStyle..
You will have to run spacers while running your stock wheels. I'll snap a photo of mine tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kind of spacer can you run with wide5 drums and wide5 15s? I want to see the pic cause I am going to run into this same problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need 1/2 inch spacers and can use either wheel studs/lug nuts or you might be able to find some sort of longer lug bolt that is long enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright, but what are you using for the 1/2in. spacer?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is a 1/2 inch thick aluminum "ring" that fits between the rim and drum and it's got holes for the lug nuts. I remember mine were a lucky find when I was looking for them several years back.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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alright, but what are you using for the 1/2in. spacer?

simple, take a pair of 4 to 5 lug adapters, drill out the threads and use them.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picture a 1/2" thick plate. cut the center out just like the center of your wheel and have the same bolt pattern....I was stumped to when I was told I needed them...I got the plates and 10 bolts (1/2" longer) for $50. I think I can get you guys a set.. I'll have to call the guy to see if he's made more or ran across any.

I'll take the pic tonigt though..I have to put my bus on stands anyways and adjust the torsion bar.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and as for your toe in problem, it sounds like you may need to slot your holes in the spring plates, that will give you a little movement, just like a stock bug.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right on. I figured it had to be something that easy or they wouldnt just be called spacers.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry it's so late but here's the pic of my spacer, there is another one in the gallery under parts/accessaries
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=71521
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well like I said when I moved the bus back into the garage something shifted and my tires aren't rubbing. But just incase when I do get it bolted solid, where can I get a set KombiMonster?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rizzag wrote:
oh and as for your toe in problem, it sounds like you may need to slot your holes in the spring plates, that will give you a little movement, just like a stock bug.


I went out and checked my plates vs the tube location and it looks like I can slide it forward another 1/4" which will probably take that little toe out away.

Next question...

How in the hell are you guys mounting shocks? I mean the bolt on the frame runs parallel with the frame and the one on the castins is all cockeyed. I was thinking of making a bracket that mounts into the shock mount and has a hole at a slight angle to run Ball Joint shocks in the rear.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any place that makes wheel adapters also make spacers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any place that makes wheel adapters also make spacers.


Thanks I read up a little and found that CIP carries one from 4-5lug for $49 the pair. I just wish I had the material to machine my own. Evil or Very Mad Now just to find 1/2" longer wheel bolts. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know yours is swing axle but I nearly gave up on my IRS trying to figure out how to do the shocks on mine. IMO you just have to be creative.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any place that makes wheel adapters also make spacers.


Thanks I read up a little and found that CIP carries one from 4-5lug for $49 the pair. I just wish I had the material to machine my own. Evil or Very Mad Now just to find 1/2" longer wheel bolts. Wink


Porsche wheel bolts may be long enough. I know they are not cheap. I beleive the OG ones are also stronger than these guys here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...ename=WDVW
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