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debunked Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:40 am Post subject: 1500 Super on Oil pump cover |
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I suppose this verifies it is a 1500 block?? It says 1500 super on the cover. I don't know much about the old 'bug' style engines. (I know the 1700 pancake better.)
Thanks
Also, I drive this thing around being nervous about the smell. The engine smells hot but doesn't feel hot. It doesn't have much miles on it and has about 30 years of paint overspray on it that has made the black look grey on the top parts. I am hoping and assuming the smell is burning off the paint. No oil leaks on this thing, no smoke, nothing..... It is tight except I feel a little oil around the base of the generator stand I put on it. |
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:50 am Post subject: |
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"1500 Super" just means you have a mexican-made replacement oil pump cover.
I don't know why they stamped that on there (brand/model name?) but the scripting looks cool. _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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rizzag Now Wut?

Joined: April 19, 2001 Posts: 3034 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:52 am Post subject: |
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learn something new all the time! i always thought that cover was from a 1500S type 3. _________________ flossin, tossin, dippin and trippin |
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's a common misconception.
I used to think it was a Porsche 356 thing. _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist

Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3022 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:08 am Post subject: |
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That 1500 super oil pump cover comes from an Okrasa kit they made in the late 60's... for a 1500. They're not that special so dont think you have a gold mine.
I just went and looked on my vintage speed web page and I dont mention them... sorry. But I do show the heads and carbs that go with it.
http://www.amayesing.com/vwengine.htm
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:14 am Post subject: |
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If that is true, then some company must have copied the design because my friend claims to have a box of just the covers with Mexican production information on it.
Sample:
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debunked Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:15 am Post subject: |
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mine only has single port heads and a 28 pict carb
The guy who rebuilt this motor (could have been almost 30 years ago) is known for his quality of work, he passed away 4 years ago or I would ask him the questions. |
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist

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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| EverettB wrote: | If that is true, then some company must have copied the design because my friend claims to have a box of just the covers with Mexican production information on it.
Sample:
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Very interesting.... I know the *original* 1500 super covers were okrasa... I'll have to dig out a few 70's era magazines and find an ad. Do you have a better close up of the cover in that picture? The originals only had '1500 super' on them... no other markings. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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EverettB  Administrator

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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist

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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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whats the marking under the super on the lower right... kinda hard to tell. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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I will try to find out.
I think it's just 3 horizontal bars. _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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cris torlasco  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:20 am Post subject: |
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I'd be interested in getting one of these covers for my 1500 SP, if your friend wants to sell one. Are those 6mm studs?
Thanks, |
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Downtown Brown Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I've got another style of the 1500 S cover they are marked P. ROMELLI, PAT.159998,M.REG.  |
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debunked Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I guess I am back to my original question - does this mean it is a 1500, or will it fit any block?
thanks......... |
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Downtown Brown wrote: | I've got another style of the 1500 S cover they are marked P. ROMELLI, PAT.159998,M.REG.  |
I wonder what country that patent is from?
US Patent # 159998 relates to "Improvement in absorbing ammonia gas in water" _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| debunked wrote: | I guess I am back to my original question - does this mean it is a 1500, or will it fit any block?
thanks......... |
It will (should) fit anything but a 36er.
BTW, my 1500 plate is smooth on the front except for the '1500 super'. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices. |
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debunked Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| DaveM wrote: |
It will (should) fit anything but a 36er.
BTW, my 1500 plate is smooth on the front except for the '1500 super'. |
Thanks, I had a feeling that was the answer. |
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hazetguy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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yawn............
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58976
these covers are NOT rare.
these covers are NOT from a type 3.
these covers are from an AFTERMARKET oil pump, from either brazil or mexico (i forget which right now).
i have one that says "1500 Super Patent Pending" on it. SO WHAT??!!! wooo, it's earlier than the ones with a patent number on it. BIG DEAL!!!
to answer the original question, NO, it does not verify a 1500 engine case. it does verify that you have an aftermarket oil pump cover (and maybe pump too), that's it. the serial number will confirm the vintage/age/original size of the engine.
if i took plate steel and made 50 oil pump covers and had the words "rare vintage empi part" stamped into them, would you believe it? |
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down and dirty Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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can I get one of those rare empi oil pump covers? That would be an interesting conversation piece at shows _________________ MOVED |
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EverettB  Administrator

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