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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)
Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I would LOVE to have a brand new aluminum Split, and it does seem like a good deal to be a complete body including even the taillight housings. Like others said, drag racers, autocross racers, and even German-Lookers would benefit from aluminum panels, fenders, doors, etc. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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make an aluminum barndoor 23 and now were talking. _________________ GFK
Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
1954 Sunroof
1959 Lowlight Ghia vert
1960 Lt Grey Double Cab SMZ LEGIT
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Jason Eden Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2003 Posts: 952 Location: Inland Empire
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Skim wrote: |
make an aluminum barndoor 23 and now were talking. |
What is the name of that car that looks like a bug with vents all over the back type A or something like that. There was a lowered green one on here awhile back. _________________ 59 bug slammed with cosmics |
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rossvw Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2004 Posts: 8 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject: Aluminum Body |
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What about a Hebmuller? That would be a great body that would probably have a lot of demand... imagine building a custom Heb from an aluminum shell...
-Ross |
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hebmueller. I think this would definitely sell due to the fact that there was a high demand for the steel repro body that was being produced in Austrailia a few years back (no longer) and the price of a real Hebmuller in general is high enough to make somebody want an aluminum one. Where as a split beetle is still out there and available if you want one. _________________ GFK
Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
1954 Sunroof
1959 Lowlight Ghia vert
1960 Lt Grey Double Cab SMZ LEGIT
1963 Deluxe Turkis Walk Thru 15 Window OG Paint |
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Macca_nzl Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2003 Posts: 367 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:16 am Post subject: |
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It would be sweet to have a aluminium split body, the only downside that i could see would be that demand would skyrocket for parts like dash pods,lenses,interiors, meaning it would be a disadvantage for real split owners looking to restore one.Supply vs. Demand .......
just my two cents
Mac _________________ 71 1302s
wanted - Blade from ambo fans. |
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mr. warehouse Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2001 Posts: 5001 Location: Nor Cal 707
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I'm with Gabe,
Do a Denzel, Rometch, pre-A, or even a '52 down 'vert.
Make something the everyday guy can't go out and buy now.
Splits are still out there |
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Thanatos Samba Psychopomp
Joined: October 14, 2009 Posts: 1729 Location: Earth
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Aluminum Split |
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I agree with other members that a coachbuilt or a Porsche of some sort would be better than a regular Bug, even if it's a split or an oval. Splits and Ovals are out there, albeit not as common as they were when one could still buy a new air-cooled Bug in the US, but something along the lines of a Rometsch Beeskow, a Denzel, a Dannenhauer & Stauss, a Hebmuller, a Porsche 356-1 (the very first Porsche) or a Porsche Carrera Abarth, would be something that would be of interest to fans of coachbuilt cars and/or the unusual. Another idea would be to reproduce the VW30 prototype that led to the VW38 and KdF-Wagen. |
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Shadd Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2007 Posts: 883 Location: Lancaster, Ohio
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Why not an aluminum bodied Porsche 550 Spyder? I would give my left nut for something like that.... |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Five years and it never happened.
Not gonna happen, especially for $10k. _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
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fifty-five Samba Crash Test Dummy
Joined: August 27, 2004 Posts: 1188 Location: over by the Farm
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I would love to get some aluminum panels. How cool would it be to save weight and still be able to say it's a all metal car, no fiberglass here. Rib doors, four tab hood, vert w decklid, and fenders sounds like a winner to me! Then I could finish out my originals when the body work and paint is being done and hide them away just in case I ever want to go back stock.... like that will happen _________________ FUCK CANCER
1955 Ragtop Oval
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panzerfuska Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2005 Posts: 142
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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this might be irrelevant, but still a possible alternative: how about a kubelwagen body? one that you can use without concern of ruining an original off-road? i'd be definitely interested. |
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tstracy39 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2008 Posts: 3294 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'd consider a replica Rometsch Beesgow as has been suggested already. As for an aluminum split, I'd much rather have a steel one. An aluminum Porsche or Hebmuller sounds good to me also, and if you want my advice I'd reproduce one of these rare and exotic models because with a Split Beetle body you'd have to worry about all the repro and original parts out there fitting your repro Split body, with a Romy or Heb you don't have to worry because the buyer would have no choice but to make all the missing parts from scratch or adapt period VW parts anyway. The one I'd actually pay money for would be a replica of a 1937 prototype, make a believable reproduction body of that and now you're talking. _________________ Check my classifieds for kewl gauges:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?username=tstracy39
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JESSEJAMES Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2005 Posts: 37 Location: L.B.C.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Aluminum Split |
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matt911949 wrote: |
To all who might be interested...
My name is Matt Faulkner, and I work for Kirkham Motorsports. Over the past several years, Kirkham Motorsports has produced around four hundred aluminum bodied replicas of Shelby Cobras, a '41 Willys replica, and we are currently looking at other projects that may interest a wide variety of automotive enthusiasts. We're curious to know if there would be any interest in an aluminum beetle body. My first thought would be to make a split window, or maybe an oval as well. Anyway, I'll leave it up to you guys to decide if this would be a worthwhile venture. I would love to receive as much feedback as possible. Thanks guys.
By the way, the price would be around $10,000 for the entire body (no pan), and though it would probably be slightly thicker than steel, it should still weigh about half as much. Oh yeah, and no rust. Thanks again guys. I'm excited to see what you think.
Matt Faulkner, Shop Manager
Kirkham Motorsports
www.kirkhammotorsports.com |
Hey Matt
I will take one!
PM me when its ready...
Thanks... |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Aluminum Split |
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FRANKYLUCKMAN wrote: |
Hey Matt
I will take one!
PM me when its ready...
Thanks... |
Jesse, did you see the date of the original post? FIVE years ago! _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
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JESSEJAMES Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2005 Posts: 37 Location: L.B.C.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Aluminum Split |
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Bruce wrote: |
FRANKYLUCKMAN wrote: |
Hey Matt
I will take one!
PM me when its ready...
Thanks... |
Jesse, did you see the date of the original post? FIVE years ago! |
I know I'm just Fuck'n around.... |
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derRHDmeister Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2004 Posts: 560 Location: worldwide
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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mr. warehouse wrote: |
I'm with Gabe,
Do a Denzel, Rometch, pre-A, or even a '52 down 'vert.
Make something the everyday guy can't go out and buy now.
Splits are still out there |
Romestch is the one he should be doing. They were originally done in aluminum id believe _________________ Ask not what your bus can do for you, but ask what you can do for your bus.
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Aluminum Split |
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FRANKYLUCKMAN wrote: |
Bruce wrote: |
FRANKYLUCKMAN wrote: |
Hey Matt
I will take one!
PM me when its ready...
Thanks... |
Jesse, did you see the date of the original post? FIVE years ago! |
I know I'm just Fuck'n around.... |
yeah, because no way $10K for a complete bug body in aluminum. _________________ drive your split. |
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overrestored Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2005 Posts: 726
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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I realize this is an old thread...
Repro's of a split would be nice... but they are not that rare (as has been previously stated). It has also been suggested to repro a more rare car... like a coachbuilt... and this might attract more attention.
But what about creating an entirely new "old coachbuilt" of your own design... in the style of the old cars?
An entirely new creation... if done well... Think Denzel, or Drews, or 550... or Waibel, or Glockler... somewhere in that vein... or even similar to that recent Rometsch Race car... this open body shape is very desirable... But not a direct copy of any of them...
The Glockler body or Rometsch race car are really attractive... so I would say that styling... but another version rather than a copy.
It should utilize all the existing vintage components available... stock headlights... some sort of stock taillights... available blinker assemblies... dash components... and a stock pan... swingaxle. I think it would be ok to raid any circa 1955 or earlier Porsche or VW parts bins for these components. especially if these parts were repro'd so that somebody who doesn't have access to the hard original parts could still build one of your cars... and then later... could slowly upgrade to more rare orig parts.
It might be called a kit by some... but if done with thoughtful attention to period details of the 1950's... I think the car would receive a warm welcome. There is logic and attractiveness to an entirely new vw coachbuilt... so long as it appears as though it were created in the period.
I like the repro hebs... and don't mean to be accidentally making any "comment" about them. They are quite well done and... well I will just leave it there.
I am just thinking that by creating an entirely new Coachbuilt... the creator would be expanding the VW Scene in a new direction. |
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eurodub Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1321
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: |
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every handcrafted car is unique to a certain point. where a man's hand ability does the forming and not the high pressure and steel molds there will always be a degree of freedom. a panel not sitting right, like someone said his rometsch has a longer door than the other. a gauge set that was available only for a car... handles etc.
so if someone thinks that an aluminum vw should be made, i say it can be done by anyone, and not for sale or a limited run. i for example like that heb coupe that was present at hessisch, not original but definitely a nice vintage approach. i think that all of us would appreciate such a built and would not hurry up to post it in the abortion thread...
ps. a shortened pan would be far more sexy than a all steel tube chassis.
and for a tight budget a 36hp and some stock parts would be more than ok. _________________ 1960 1200 model 117 deluxe ragtop
1974 T2 Westfalia Campmobile
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