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Big Fat
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The new version of ISP West's hide-away exhaust actually installed on a car? Oh, and is it safe/beneficial to wrap the headers if they're ceramic coated?
Thanks!
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Mr. Bubblehead
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a picture of... |
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Wrapping the header will help keep the engine compartment cool.
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TimGud
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| The ceramic headers actually radiate alot less heat than those that aren't coated. You may not need to wrap them at all. |
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Phatusatus
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Yo Pimpride...
Show us a picture that has the new exhaust on it...please.
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Bryan67
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Header wrap retains water and will make your exhaust rust out. |
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Mr. Bubblehead
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| Header wrap retains water and will make your exhaust rust out. |
Uh, I beg to differ. I've been using header wrap on my exhausts and heat exchangers for years and I've not had anything rust out yet. I rebuilt my engine last year and the paint underneath the wrap still looked like new.
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Bryan67
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| I have never used it but have heard this from several people. So I could`nt really say. |
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typfasty
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Wouldn't the heat from the header get rid of any water issues...
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Russ Wolfe
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Isn't the idea to get heat away from the engine/exhaust, and not hold it in??
Also, The ceramic/porcelein coatings were tried by VW back in 1966. They put some mufflers on the T-1 from the factory, and they didn't seem to last any longer than the regular mufflers. All it takes is one rock chip, and the coating starts to come off.
If you want an exhuast system to last, go with 409 stainless steel. That is what most modern exhausts are made of. My header "Y"pipe on my '92 Dakota pickup are still going strong after 160K miles. It has gone thru 3 Midas mufflers.
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Mr. Bubblehead
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| Wouldn't the heat from the header get rid of any water issues... |
Yes, I think that the heat evaporates the water rather quickly. If the car is not driven on a regular basis and it is outside in a humid climate there could be some rust formation from water in the exhaust wrap, though.
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PIMPPRIDE
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Yo Pimpride...
Show us a picture that has the new exhaust on it...please. |
just added ceramic coated photos to the add... will try to get installed photos ASAP... 
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Stevie Hall
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Hello Anthony! I've mine ordered with you along with a few other goodies. I'm looking forward to seeing it installed and am bursting to hear what it sounds like!  Thanks for your help.
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PIMPPRIDE
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Does anyone have a picture of... |
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| Big Fat wrote: |
| The new version of ISP West's hide-away exhaust actually installed on a car? |
raw header & muffler installed in a squareback... the apron is strait as original...
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Notched
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Looks great Anthony!
Is the muffler available without the header?
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PIMPPRIDE
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| Notched wrote: |
Looks great Anthony!
Is the muffler available without the header? |
no sorry, its sold as one unit, as the header is specific to the muffler, plus we made identical runs of each header & muffler, and are pre packaged ready to ship...
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Big Fat
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Wow that looks so awesome... too bad the previous owner of my car cut the apron off to fit the Dual QPs.
Regardless I hope to order this soon and hopefully one day find a replacement apron.
Thanks for the pic!
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Big Fat
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Hey Anthony, how loud is this system? Any idea how it compares sound-wise to the dual-quiet packs I have on my car now?
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Big Fat
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| Hey Anthony, how loud is this system? Any idea how it compares sound-wise to the dual-quiet packs I have on my car now? |
Bump for this question. 
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PIMPPRIDE
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this system sounds similar to a single quiet pack... but without that tin hollow sound, this muffler actually has packing in it, and the sound will differ depending on your engine size & carburetors...
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vwfye
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do you have any plans to put htis out in a 1.5 I.D. system with J tubes?
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