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mharney Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject: A carburetor question for YOU guys |
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So I have this generic 34PICT3 carb I am working on, it's been lean on main circuit. Everything checks out, but the discharge nozzle is weird on it. I expect a larger ring at the base and a discharge port, not what I see here. Here is the body and the nozzle.
If you have one of these units, can you try to take a picture of yours if it is different? This just looks like it must have had a piece pressed in that fell out. |
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clonebug Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4027 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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I just checked my Bocar 34 and an original German Solex 34 pict and they are both the same as your carb.
I took pics and if you want them I can post but they are not of the same quality and there is not enough difference to make that a cause.
Just for the heck of it take a 2 inch piece of fuel line and add it to the fuel bowl vent like I did in my turbo project and see if that richens it up any.
You could also try one a bit longer too.if you have the room in the aircleaner. I didn't have room and that is why I only went with the shorty.
I would like to know since it really richened up my main on boost from 18 to 1 lean full load to 9.5 to 1 blubbering rich at full load.
With just that change of all the screwing around I did to try to get more fuel that is what did the trick.
I went from a 180 main lean back down to a 145 main still rich but enough boost and power to rip both my silicon intake boots and slip my clutch.
I am in the process of installing new super boots and a new clutch before I can try again.
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clonebug Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I went and took some better pics......still not great but they do show the piece you want.
Solex34 pict
Ignore the copper tubing insert.
This is a carb I modified for my turbo project. I inserted a piece of copper tubing around the jet port to try to make an auxiliary vent since I remove the original venturi. It will be retested later once I work out the Bocar first.
Bocar 34
I would think that you might see a result with a piece of hose since the theory is that it gives a better atmospheric reference farther away from the venturi.
It is at least worth a try.
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torsionbar Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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^ what is that?? i've taken better photos using a potato. if i had a dollar for every pixel in those "photos" i'd have about 50 cents. _________________
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VIN Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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torsionbar wrote: |
^ what is that?? i've taken better photos using a potato. if i had a dollar for every pixel in those "photos" i'd have about 50 cents. |
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mharney Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm looking for a picture of the SAME carburetor Clonebug, but thanks. Yours have the lip I am used to seeing.. This one does not, and I suspect it has lost an insert. The lip speaks for a lower entry into the depression zone at the minor diameter and a draft effect at higher air speeds. It makes no sense to have to elevate the float bowl vent, the mixture should be right with the correct jets. |
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modok Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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clonebug wrote: |
I just checked my Bocar 34 and an original German Solex 34 pict and they are both the same as your carb.
I took pics and if you want them I can post but they are not of the same quality and there is not enough difference to make that a cause.
Just for the heck of it take a 2 inch piece of fuel line and add it to the fuel bowl vent like I did in my turbo project and see if that richens it up any.
You could also try one a bit longer too.if you have the room in the aircleaner. I didn't have room and that is why I only went with the shorty.
I would like to know since it really richened up my main on boost from 18 to 1 lean full load to 9.5 to 1 blubbering rich at full load.
With just that change of all the screwing around I did to try to get more fuel that is what did the trick.
I went from a 180 main lean back down to a 145 main still rich but enough boost and power to rip both my silicon intake boots and slip my clutch.
I am in the process of installing new super boots and a new clutch before I can try again.
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Putting a strange combination of 90 degree bends directly above the carb surely will make it act strange, that is why your tube does something I betcha. Strange setup/strange tuning, whatever floats your boat |
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clonebug Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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modok wrote: |
clonebug wrote: |
I just checked my Bocar 34 and an original German Solex 34 pict and they are both the same as your carb.
I took pics and if you want them I can post but they are not of the same quality and there is not enough difference to make that a cause.
Just for the heck of it take a 2 inch piece of fuel line and add it to the fuel bowl vent like I did in my turbo project and see if that richens it up any.
You could also try one a bit longer too.if you have the room in the aircleaner. I didn't have room and that is why I only went with the shorty.
I would like to know since it really richened up my main on boost from 18 to 1 lean full load to 9.5 to 1 blubbering rich at full load.
With just that change of all the screwing around I did to try to get more fuel that is what did the trick.
I went from a 180 main lean back down to a 145 main still rich but enough boost and power to rip both my silicon intake boots and slip my clutch.
I am in the process of installing new super boots and a new clutch before I can try again.
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Putting a strange combination of 90 degree bends directly above the carb surely will make it act strange, that is why your tube does something I betcha. Strange setup/strange tuning, whatever floats your boat |
There was a method to my madness.
When I started this turbo build I didn't want to cut my buggy body.... and so far I haven't had to. That is why the intake is shaped the way it is.
I have less in my build with Turbo, MS1, Edis and LM1 than most would pay for a Case and crank.
With it running as high as 13 lbs. of boost on an engine bought off of theSamba for $250 it will give many one heck of a run for their money.
Oh... and it is a blast to drive.
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